Calling all Pocket Watch Buffs

Canuck · Sep 14, 2023

ZeKay
Hi There
I am sorry for jumping into this discussion but it is somehow related to my problem.
I am looking for a replacement dial for my newly acquired Canadian railway pocket watch - Brandt CCCR.
Unfortunately, the Past was not too kind to this dial. (attached image should explain)
Thanks

No need to apologize! A dial from a CCR would also fit your watch. Chances are you may have to find a donor watch. I have two CCRS. One, a private label dial for A. Logan, Greenwood, B. C.. The other has a dial marked Louis Brandt & frere, in script.

Alpha · Sep 14, 2023

Both running today, I tend to have them running most days now as I love the sound of them next to my desk 😀

TexOmega · Sep 14, 2023

And Hamilton accommodated Private Label grade 974’s…..

Millett & Stern Lynn, Mass
Gold Package
1905
Pendant Set
Double sunk porcelain dial
Moon hands

sonicosa · Sep 14, 2023

Canuck
Once you have it in hand, please get back to us with pictures of the movement, and pictures inside the case back. Looks like 18-size. Could be grade 936, 940, or 944. Let’s hope!

My parents arrived in town tonight and, lucky me, they brought the watch with them. Turns out it is a 924 movement. Here are some quick pictures:

TexOmega · Sep 15, 2023

My newest(1973) pocket watch

Caravelle
I’d guess 16s case, movement is about 36-7mm across
Unitas 6497 movt, 17j, pendant set, robust, reliable and an easy service….been around forever as a pw movement and many years as a Wrist watch, Panerai OP series being one( very modified).

Killer dial and hands for any period.

Case not bad for so late a date, screw back, GF.

Excellent runner

Canuck · Sep 15, 2023

TexOmega
My newest(1973) pocket watch

Caravelle
I’d guess 16s case, movement is about 36-7mm across
Unitas 6497 movt, 17j, pendant set, robust, reliable and an easy service….been around forever as a pw movement and many years as a Wrist watch, Panerai OP series being one( very modified).

Killer dial and hands for any period.

Case not bad for so late a date, screw back, GF.

Omega uses that movement. Hamilton as well, why not Caravelle? I really like the decoration on the case.

TexOmega · Sep 16, 2023

The Hamilton Electric Railway Special ended in 1925 when Mr. Dueber of Dueber-Hampden Watch Co. realized Hamilton was infringing on Dueber's copyright of the name "Railway" which stretched back to the early 1900's with his Railway Special and New Railway watches.

So, if you have a dial like this, it better have the grade 974 movement NOT the 974 Special movement, which was introduced in 1928, if one values correctness.

Handsome Marginal Minutes(Montgomery) single sunk "porcelain" dial (see US advertisement) or "Vitreous Enamel" in other markets.
Circa 1922
Adjusted to temperature and 3 positions
16s, 17J
GF Illinois case

Marketed to bus drivers/trolley/Interurban Rail, etc.(those not under RR Time Inspection)

Canuck · Sep 18, 2023

I’ve shown these pictures on the Omega pocket watch board, but thus far have neglected showing them here. Saturday, Sept. 9, and Sunday September 10 was Railway Days at our local Heritage Park. This park is about 1/4 section of early Calgary history, situated on a promontory which is surrounded by a reservoir. Several kms of track, two steam locomotives, dozens of historic buildings, livestock, live action exhibits, theatre, lots of rolling stock. We have shown our exhibit in numerous locations at similar events over the years. Very enjoyable, and much good interaction with the viewing public.

TexOmega · Sep 20, 2023

And, Caravelle via Bulova via Unitas(probably) had a pw for the managerial/gentleman class in the 1970’s, too.
1972 copper penny, so about a size 10 or small 12.

cool date feature too

Canuck · Sep 20, 2023

Bulova used a lot of Japanese clone movements in their popular priced lines. I once owned an ARDAY which was sold by Bulova. The name of the line was in honour of Arde Bulova who built Bulova into the company it became eventually. If this one has that same movement in it, it is a clone of the venerable Swiss-made View attachment 1667096 FHF 72 movement. I have shown an image of the Swiss version, as well as the Arday/Caravelle version, made in Japan. The subject watch has a date feature which the FHF72 doesn’t have, however. And the subject watch is marked SWISS. So what is the purpose of my reply, you might ask?😕

ghce · Sep 20, 2023

Anyone recognise this movement?
Presented in a Foreign imported .935 case so likely Swiss ( double Squirrels).

TexOmega · Sep 21, 2023

Rockford sidewinder
Swingout case
18s 17j Unmarked grade 835
Y: 1899
Solid timekeeper just not RR grade

Found at a Missoula Pawn shop, 2001

Alpha · Sep 22, 2023

Remember purchasing this piece from a Brocante in the South of France as if it was yesterday 🥰

ghce · Sep 23, 2023

Couldn't resist the temptation of buying this at Auction this afternoon, it was far too cheap for what it is (US$47.00 52.00 inc freight ) notwithstanding the damaged dial.

Waltham 1883 grade 825

In running order according to the seller.

Not RR grade and not adjusted but 17 jewels, finely finished and great movement cosmetics.

https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/waltham/13381252/movement

kingsrider · Sep 23, 2023

Interesting timing on this thread. My father passed away in July. He has passed on literally 100's of wrist watches. I am just now starting to think about how to classify them. The obvious; silver, gold, 14k,18k, key wind, stem wind, repeaters, French, Swiss, British, American😲😲😲

Canuck · Sep 23, 2023

Condolences on the passing of your father.

As an assist in learning about the pocket watches, the pocketwatchdatabase.com will be a great help in learning about the American made watches in the collection. If you can use some assistance, consider getting back to us if you have questions.

ghce · Sep 24, 2023

Bought another Waltham at auction tonight and I am afraid its outlook is bleak.

I bought the Sterling Silver Hunter for its case so another nicer higher grade Waltham movement could be rehoused.

https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/waltham/20972395

Not in working order.

Seller pics

Canuck · Sep 24, 2023

Badly sprung hinge on the front cover. Let us know how you make out with that problem. The movement will come in handy as a donor for future projects. The dial likewise. It should clean up. The Traveller grade name is typical of a Waltham movement sold (usually) in England. The trade mark A L D is Aaron Lufkin Dennison, a founder of the Waltham company who resided in England.

ghce · Sep 24, 2023

Canuck
Badly sprung hinge on the front cover. Let us know how you make out with that problem. The movement will come in handy as a donor for future projects. The dial likewise. It should clean up. The Traveller grade name is typical of a Waltham movement sold (usually) in England. The trade mark A L D is Aaron Lufkin Dennison, a founder of the Waltham company who resided in England.

Yes that hinge area looks a bit dodgy.
I have little regret in sacrificing the movement in these low jeweled travelers.

Bernhard J · Sep 25, 2023

Here another European watch (French) I recently acquired. Quarter repeater, ca. 1700.