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Cal 2552PC or Cal 2542PC? That's nobody's business but the Turks

  1. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Nov 18, 2013

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    A little while ago, in some thread around here, someone raised the question of the authenticity of the surprisingly frequent kinda-interesting Zeniths that pop up from several Turkish sellers (or at least several Turkish eBay identities). Behold the miracle of the highly-advanced Turkish Watch Replicator/Confabulator

    First offering - September 27, 2013 - a well-worn black dial S.58 with NSA bracelet and cal 2552PC is sold for best offer below USD4999
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ZEN...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
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    Second offering - October 17, 2013 - a surprisingly similar S.58 on auction ends early, having reached USD1375 "because the item was sold." Either that, or perhaps it has occurred to seller peneyes that the cal 2552PC is a little late for an S.58?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ZEN...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
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    Third offering - November 17, 2013 - another surprisingly similar S.58, except that now it has a somewhat more believable cal 2542PC, sells for USD2275.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ZEN...9aAwt22AOsFmNHi9ouKcg%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=ncPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
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    Have we heard the last?
     
  2. ulackfocus Nov 18, 2013

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    There has to be a perfect way to describe eBay in general. "Necessary evil" is too tame, yet "complete shit hole" is too strong.
     
  3. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 18, 2013

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    No, I've seen those on Startrek. They can replicate most anything, really . :thumbsup:

    Is Mr Spock Turkish ::confused2::
     
  4. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Nov 18, 2013

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    "Turkish prison"?
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  5. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 18, 2013

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    Mmm, can't see the watch
     
  6. CdnWatchDoc Nov 18, 2013

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    Must be those new 3D printers everyone is talking about...Who knew Turkey was so advanced!!::confused2::
     
  7. haga888 Nov 19, 2013

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    don't you get dinged for ebay fees once you sell items? That guy sold the same item 3 times.
     
  8. ulackfocus Nov 19, 2013

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    The seller reports the "buyer" (usually another account created by them for shilling so it's disposable) for non-payment so they don't get hit with the fees. The "buyer" can even leave them feedback.
     
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  9. haga888 Nov 19, 2013

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    Seems like a fairly large flaw in the system...
     
  10. Habitant Nov 20, 2013

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    Yep, there's a few huge flaws in the eBay system and they appear to be entirely disinterested in addressing them. Indeed, there is no channel to communicate feedback with them, at least not that I could discover. The phone lines are populated by agreeable women reading from scripts in accented English, and they for sure don't want to know anything complicated and outside the box.
    But back to the S58, I think it's pushing it to expect these Turkish guys to be too bothered with authenticity and accuracy. I guess we ought to be thankful he didn't put a nice quartz movement in it. Caveat emptor, I guess. Shocking.
     
  11. haga888 Nov 20, 2013

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    eBay probably makes so much money from shillers bidding the prices up they don't care.