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Buying a vintage omega and need help determining if it's authentic

  1. MrJDA Aug 15, 2017

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    I recently bought a 1959 Wood Yacht and thought a 1959 vintage omega would be a great pairing. However, I know nothing about determining if it's real or fake. So I figured joining a forum with folks that actually have knowledge and experience would be a good start. Any help would be appreciated.

    Here is one I'm currently looking at...

    Real or fake?

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  2. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Aug 15, 2017

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    There are far better examples for a hell of a lot less money. Three red flags for me: Refinished dial, no movement photo and the discoloration of the date wheel. The date wheel probably explains why the dial was refinished and likely why there's no movement photo. I would set up a search on WatchRecon.com and watch the Private Sales listings here.
     
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  3. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Aug 15, 2017

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    It's real but really overpriced by close to three times.

    As already noted "refurbished dial" is not good.

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  4. Tik-Tok of Oz Aug 15, 2017

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    +1 . And I have only been seriously collecting for the last year or so. I'm a noob and not a Seamaster guy in my collection. And I agree with everything said above. The dial looks too brand new for a 1959 model, the photographs don't show the most important part of the watch, which is the movement, A lack of close-ups doesn't allow you to tell if the other parts of the dial and face were replaced with non-genuine parts or replaced imperfectly and without care. Some redials have numbers or hash marks if you will that are off center and angled photos hide this.

    I would recommend searching the private watch sales forum this website and you will likely find something just as good, from a great seller, for less money.

    The one piece of advice I've always managed to keep inside my dull little brain is, "buy the seller" and if you do that you will be happy. Or at least not unhappy at having spent a lot of money on something that was very much overpriced.

    If you have time to spend on this check out some of the stickies at the top of this forum. In particular @ConElPueblo Learn How To Fish thread. That thread, and a few others, as well as some help from the great members, (who are professionals all) taught me everything I know in a short period of time.

    (Which I've come to find out really isn't that much. Always more to learn here.)

    Good luck hunting !

    Edit: spelling.
     
  5. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Aug 15, 2017

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    Good call. I meant to include the link in my earlier post. https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/
     
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  6. MrJDA Aug 15, 2017

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    And I'm totally with you on the patience thing. I'm not good at it either. But I find if you do not slow it down and realize there's no reason to rush into a purchase you can occasionally get burned.
     
  8. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Aug 15, 2017

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    I would like to amend my earlier post. "I would set up a search on WatchRecon.com and watch the Private Sales listings here" and quit looking at eBay until you know what you're doing.
     
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  9. Edward53 Aug 15, 2017

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    The hands on that watch are wrong, which I just found out by image searching the case reference. You could have done that too.
    Purchase in haste, repent at leisure! (I'm sure I have heard that somewhere before, or something like it...)

    As a general rule, the desirability / value for money of a watch being offered on the Internet is in inverse proportion to how slickly it is presented. Unfortunately the reverse does not apply.
     
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  10. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Aug 16, 2017

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    No pictures of the wood yacht, how can I pair something with something I haven't seem
     
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  11. MrJDA Aug 16, 2017

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    Won't let me upload a picture.....but here she is https://goo.gl/photos/1Qznnr8rnkkiZgXw9
     
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  12. Edward53 Aug 16, 2017

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    Nice boat! It deserves a better watch than the ones you've been looking at. I think something like this would go nicely:

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    Here's the yacht btw.

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  13. MrJDA Aug 16, 2017

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    Is that for Sale?
     
  14. BenBagbag Aug 16, 2017

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    I believe the yacht has been redialed at some point.
     
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  15. Edward53 Aug 16, 2017

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    Sorry, it's a prized possession! I just posted it to give you an idea. To be fair, the chronometers aren't common but most older Seamasters in those chunky cases look good on the "engineering chain" type of BOR bracelet.
     
  16. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Aug 16, 2017

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    Cool

    Just think as watch buying like buying yachts look at a lot and don't buy the first 3 ;)

    Here is a 1959 also
    ( pretty sure it is but just come of night shift zzzzzz )

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  17. MrJDA Aug 17, 2017

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    Is that a watch you're selling?
     
  18. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Aug 17, 2017

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    Not this one :D

    Sent you a PM