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  1. Norfolk Jul 3, 2019

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    647E4230-BF41-4078-9D28-C5CB3377CA82.jpeg just got an extract for a Connie from 1962. Got this remark.

    What exactly is a bulletin officiel?
     
  2. Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! Jul 3, 2019

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    What he said.
    ::popcorn::
     
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  3. michael e Still learning. Jul 3, 2019

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    One of the first watches with an upgraded or improved part within?
     
  4. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Jul 3, 2019

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    Presumably a Chronometre "Bulletin de Marche" confirming its status, and results.

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  5. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Jul 4, 2019

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    Best I could find was an image posted by @gatorcpa on WUS (13 years ago!) and a pic of a cert in French.
    No idea why this would be listed under remarks on an extract though, as all Connies (up to a point in the 70s) would be supplied with a chronometer cert.
    4FD7BAD4-475A-460F-AFF6-605A437D75B0.jpeg 87D8B201-F135-4526-BCA9-26C89DF425DD.jpeg
     
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  6. mac_omega Jul 4, 2019

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    Not quite correct:
    I think there is a difference if you get a bulletin the marche with the watch which was issued from an observatory or if you get a simple chronometer certificate which was issued from a bureau of control which is much more common.
    A bulletin de marche from an observatory is the one to go for and this would add considerably to the value - in case it were still with the watch of course. A mention in the extract is not enough as we can assume...
     
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  7. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Jul 4, 2019

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    Ah! Mea culpa
    The pics I posted above state that the watch has received a bulletin.
    As opposed to actually receiving the bulletin itself.
     
  8. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jul 4, 2019

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    How many foreign cases watches got a chrono cert?

    This may be a stupid question, but I thought they where tested in the case.
     
  9. Norfolk Jul 5, 2019

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    Which observatory would have done it in 1962. I requested (and got) one from Besancon for my marine chronometer from 1975. Might be interesting to request a copy!
     
  10. Norfolk Jul 5, 2019

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    And here is the watch in question. The irony of the dial not saying Officially Certified is not lost on me. 84AD8063-F2FB-423A-92A6-B3482B50A25D.jpeg
     
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  11. Norfolk Jul 8, 2019

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    any more thoughts from the experts here on trying to get a copy of a Bulletin Officiel?
     
  12. Evitzee Jul 8, 2019

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    You mean for your particular watch? Unlikely I'd say. Even COSC only keeps the records for 10 years and then they aren't available any longer, you have to have it run through the tests again. The records for a 1962 test are probably long gone, especially since you don't know who did the testing.
     
  13. Norfolk Jul 9, 2019

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    A mystery that will never be solved...how frustrating!
    If I could confirm the observatory ( as I did with the MC) I could approach them and see if they would issue it but, as you say, extremely unlikely now.
     
  14. Cnast Jul 21, 2021

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    I believe most observatory grade movements from that period have a white rubie trough which " supposedly " a watchmaker could check the quality of the lube .

    You can see it in Omega CK 2254 also.In Rolex speedking kew A.

    Good luck
     
  15. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jul 21, 2021

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    I think that was dependent on the particular caliber of the movement.

    The cal. 352 movements from early 1950’s had that feature. However, the slightly later cal. 354’s did not. I don’t think any of the cal. 50X, 551 or 56X movements had the clear jewel.

    I also am not aware of any Constellations that had Observatory certifications. Perhaps @mac_omega can enlighten us on that point.
    gatorcpa
     
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  16. MTROIS Jul 21, 2021

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    Between Neuchatel and Besançon, you would have at least two leads to start your investigation with. Did you ever try?
    And Omega could not provide any additional info!?
     
  17. mac_omega Jul 21, 2021

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    The use of clear (or "white") rubies was random - I have found a cal. 30 Rg which had a clear jewel in the pallet cock whis is not unusual
    but had 4 (four!) clear (=white) additional rubies - but on the dial side - so what for?

    For those who have my book - it is shown there in a picture on page 85 titled "Small Peculiarities"
     
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