BMW Feature Subscriptions are here, Heated Seats = $18/month

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This BS seems inevitable with cars becoming more and more like rolling IPhones. Bad enough that I have to pay fees to Sirius XM, I will drive my current 2014 Outback and elderly 2007 CRV a while longer.
 
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Reading the article, it appears these features are still available for an upfront cost such as when ordering the vehicle, presumably. Who in their right mind would pay a monthly fee for such features if they really want them? Probably the same who have three credit cards maxed out, by a new phone every year on credit, and finance everything, I guess. I'll just be keeping my 11 and 21 year old BMWs, thank you.

Yes, all the outrage over this seems to miss that you can still buy them as an option, just like before. Much ado about nothing, really.

I see this as more of a way for people who don't want or need these things, to opt out, but when selling the car down the line those things are there if the next person wants them. Having the "equipment installed" even if it isn't used, likely helps standardize production for BMW as well.
 
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Yes, all the outrage over this seems to miss that you can still buy them as an option, just like before. Much ado about nothing, really.

I see this as more of a way for people who don't want or need these things, to opt out, but when selling the car down the line those things are there if the next person wants them. Having the "equipment installed" even if it isn't used, likely helps standardize production for BMW as well.
The subscriptions for features like this have only just been added and only on some vehicles for now but given the potential for revenue growth it’s inevitable that brands will transition to it and away from options at time of purchase.

From a company value perspective, ongoing subscription / SaaS type revenue is considered more reliable and consistent and thus more highly valued than revenue from product sales so the companies that don’t push their customers into that direction will suffer in terms of share price. Which ultimately tends to be the priority.
 
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The subscriptions for features like this have only just been added and only on some vehicles for now but given the potential for revenue growth it’s inevitable that brands will transition to it and away from options at time of purchase.

Certainly possible, but I won't go so far as to call it a given at this point.
 
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Yes, all the outrage over this seems to miss that you can still buy them as an option, just like before. Much ado about nothing, really.

I see this as more of a way for people who don't want or need these things, to opt out, but when selling the car down the line those things are there if the next person wants them. Having the "equipment installed" even if it isn't used, likely helps standardize production for BMW as well.

Also, weather can vary substantially to the point that an option like heated seats goes unused for a large portion of the year. I guess the model may work for people in those situations but at some point, you'll pay more in subscription costs than buying the feature outright. Like you said, though, until most or a lot of features are only available through subscription only and only via subscription, this is much ado about nothing.
 
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So the buyer doesn't purchase the extras initially as an option, but they are still fitted anyway for those who might want to subscribe at a later date. I can't imagine in my wildest dreams that the cost of installing the options isn't incorporated in the initial price of the car. so it's a way to generate additional income by the manufacturers to get paid multiple times for the same 'extra'. I would call that a scam, personally.
 
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The subscriptions for features like this have only just been added and only on some vehicles for now but given the potential for revenue growth it’s inevitable that brands will transition to it and away from options at time of purchase.

From a company value perspective, ongoing subscription / SaaS type revenue is considered more reliable and consistent and thus more highly valued than revenue from product sales so the companies that don’t push their customers into that direction will suffer in terms of share price. Which ultimately tends to be the priority.
I think this is a very salient point. I was discussing this article with my partner (who works for a popular US toy company), and she immediately
pointed out that the reliable, steady stream of revenue provided by such a model is beyond attractive to any company whose sales tend to be more cyclical in nature.
 
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I had a Saab 9000CS back in the mid 90's that came with heated seats. For me, in my part of Australia, it was a never-used feature but it got a good response if I had a date in the car on a cold night. Back then they didn't even know heated seats were a thing and they got a thrill from that warm feeling. So $18/mth mightn't be a bad investment for a guy who's just become single in a temperate climate zone. 😉
 
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They don't seem to do any of this palarky for domestic Japanese made cars so I guess I will stick with Japanese domestic market made cars sold second hand or new into the NZ market.
 
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So the buyer doesn't purchase the extras initially as an option, but they are still fitted anyway for those who might want to subscribe at a later date. I can't imagine in my wildest dreams that the cost of installing the options isn't incorporated in the initial price of the car. so it's a way to generate additional income by the manufacturers to get paid multiple times for the same 'extra'. I would call that a scam, personally.
This is what burns me about this proposition- it’s the gouging. The option has been installed at the time of manufacture, it was absolutely incorporated into the selling price of the car- there is no reason to add a subscription as it’s not a “service” like XM or Nav.
Most cars come pre-wired for options that haven’t been spec’d, it makes sense to standardize the wiring. But if it’s already there….just greedy.
 
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This is what burns me about this proposition- it’s the gouging. The option has been installed at the time of manufacture, it was absolutely incorporated into the selling price of the car- there is no reason to add a subscription as it’s not a “service” like XM or Nav.
Most cars come pre-wired for options that haven’t been spec’d, it makes sense to standardize the wiring. But if it’s already there….just greedy.
This is my thought as well. A good example would be foglights. Most cars come with the wiring already installed, connectors and everything. Just no lights or switch installed. To get foglights, you'd pay for them or buy the trim level that comes with foglights. And you get to use it for the life of the vehicle.
What is potentially a "new norm" would be having foglights and the switch fully installed and operational, but having to pay a subscription fee in order to operate them.
I can definitely see this coming for A/C in cars if this SAAS flys. It's almost purely for comfort and not safely related, and imagine the killing they can make.
This is double dipping in my eyes. A middle ground would be to offer unlimited service for the original owner or some sort of timed service like 3-4 years (unlimited owners), then begin charging.
 
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I read something about a person buying a used Tesla and losing features. Apparently the original owner had a feature they weren’t supposed to and Tesla shut it off wirelessly. New order was not pleased because they thought the car had the feature.
 
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A middle ground would be to offer unlimited service for the original owner or some sort of timed service like 3-4 years (unlimited owners), then begin charging.
They’ve already done that. When free service for x years/miles became part of the sales pitch about 20 years ago, amazingly cars didn’t need service anymore! Fluids became “lifetime fill, and old changes went from the standard 3 or 5k interval to 10k miles….funny that.

I have always stuck to the old Inspection I/ II intervals for my cars (old school BMW owner). My wife brought her mini into the dealer (under warranty) for an oil change at 5k miles past the last one. The service advisor actually mansplaned to her how oils changes work and that the car will tell her when it needs an oil change. She just looked at him and said- yeah, change the oil please.
 
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I read something about a person buying a used Tesla and losing features. Apparently the original owner had a feature they weren’t supposed to and Tesla shut it off wirelessly. New order was not pleased because they thought the car had the feature.
Tesla forums are filled with this kind of stuff. I saw one where the owner brought his car in for repair since it wasnt supercharging. He was without the car for a atleast a month. Meanwhile they were still charging him for the supercharging service and wouldnt refund the amounts despite the fact he
A) didnt have the car for atleast a month and
B) couldn't supercharge in the first place

They’ve already done that. When free service for x years/miles became part of the sales pitch about 20 years ago, amazingly cars didn’t need service anymore! Fluids became “lifetime fill, and old changes went from the standard 3 or 5k interval to 10k miles….funny that.
My thoughts are that theyre really pushing towards a "maintenance free, replace car every X years" model. In the past 30+ years, as you've mentioned, intervals are extending, parts are "replace only" and no longer serviceable or not feasibly serviceable, proliferation of plastic components, subscription access only diagnostics, etc. By eliminating the access to self service or repair, you slowly eliminate the thought of self service or repair. This then becomes the norm, and the norm drives the society and economy. Voting with your wallet isnt very useful when the options are rigged from the start.

This is a big reason i got into mechanical and vintage watches. It's such a shame to just completely throw things away, but it seems thats where the world is headed.
 
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Can you pay the subscription fee only from October to March?
 
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Hey dad here’s a pack of smokes and three months of seat heat. Merry Christmas.