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Blancpain 2100-1130M

  1. Eve

    Eve Jul 31, 2019

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    Dear Forum Members,

    i just stumbled across a Blancpain, which sounds like a good deal.
    However i have no experience with this brand, so i wanted to check with members here (i saw somebody here with this model). Maybe more knowledgeble guys could help? What would one look for?
    Quick google check showed, that there are some fine Replicas on this exact model, so it got my attention..
    https://www.repgeek.com/blancpain/260629-blancpain-leman-2100-military-dial-quick-review.html

    Unfortunatelly the photos are not perfect. Its all i have. And no movement shot.
    It comes without papers, just the box.
    Thanks for your help!
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    Edited Aug 2, 2019
  2. Eve

    Eve Aug 2, 2019

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    Not to leave this thread useless, i deceided to consolidate some of information i managed to gather in the past days.
    Maybe it could be helpful to the folks looking for this Model in the future.

    First of all, i met the seller today at the jeweler and handled the watch in person. After close inspection the jeweler confirmed the originality of the watch.
    Normally when i see such beat up case on photos i expect the watch to look better in person, it was also true in this case. However the dial had some strange spots around the numerals, which one can only see with good light. I think it is either caused from Tritium decay or some light water damage from the past.
    Since the Numerals didnt light up, but the hands were as bright as a torch, i came to conclusion that these are replacement hands, and that the dial is Tritium. I was not aware that these dials came in tritium, since there is no indication "T" at the "swiss made".
    The watch feels really heavy for such slim design and relatively small size. but somehow i liked the feel of the watch. Also the case size 38mm is just so perfekt when on the arm.
    End of the story -> i decided to walk away from this deal... i just didnt like the dial patina, and for me this dial was like the most important part of this watch.


    Here are also some things i found out on the fake/replica Blancpain 2100 Leman military dial:

    .) My assumption on the AR-coating was slightly misleading! The genuine one also has an AR coating with blue tone, but it is not so intensive blue like on the replica. Therefore my previous post is wrong and i deleted it.

    Fake:
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    .) Most fakes i found use a Myota movement, so if there is a chance to open the case, then it should be an easy call.

    Fake:
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    Genuine (Cal. 1151):
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    .) Date wheel is also the most obvious, the fake one uses rather straight numers, while the original look more conus-shaped and different font:

    Fake:
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    Genuine:
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    .) Also the spaceing between the date-window and the inner circle edge is very different on the fake.(see photos above)

    .) Nr. 4545 engraved on the caseback. Most of the fakes i found online use this Number on the caseback.
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    .) Arrows on the endlink - Not sure if this one is true for all fakes, but the fake bracelets i found online didnt have Arrows engraved on them.

    Fake:
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    Genuine:
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    .) Watch thickness: Due to the Myota movement the watch case of the Fake one is apparently slightly thicker, than the original. (original should be 10mm thick).
    .) Not perfectly centered 6 on the dial. I read somewhre that some fakes had a slightly displaced 6 printed on the dial, but couldnt find any obivous photos.
    .) The tip of the seconds hand is blunt on a Fake and is sharp on the Genuine.
    Fake:
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    Genuine:
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    I hope it helps!
     
    Edited Aug 15, 2019 1:28pm
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  3. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Aug 2, 2019

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    Shame it didn't work out - BP makes a wonderful watch. My old Leman was probably the most accurate watch I've ever owned, and it was basically zero gain or loss day after day. 100 power reserve, but it is one of the few watches I ended up parting with in the end.
     
  4. Eve

    Eve Aug 2, 2019

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    I could not sleep for 2 nights, because i was so excited about the watch.. Now i probably wont sleep because of the disapointment :) too bad the dial had something strange going on. But its not the end of the world, maybe one day another good deal will come up.

    Honestly, i was actually on a search for a 36mm Explorer when i stumbled across the Leman. I thought, thats an amazeing watch for like half the price. Perfectly slim, nice size, beautiful dial, And a superb movement.
     
  5. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Aug 2, 2019

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    I get it - here's my old Leman:

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    One of the nicest boxes going too:

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    Long exposure:

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    Okay have to stop - making me miss the watch too much! :)
     
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  6. Eve

    Eve Aug 2, 2019

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    Please stop posting those amazeing photos!! :( :eek: :)
    Do you know by any chance when Blancpain switched frim Tritium to Luminova? I could not find any indications on the dials, and i somehow prefer the more functional Lume.
     
  7. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Aug 2, 2019

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    Sorry, I don't know when they may have changed the lume material...
     
  8. Eve

    Eve Aug 6, 2019

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    Sometimes its not you who chose the watch, but the watch that chose you!

    After not too many sleepless nights and a bit of negotiation :) finally its on my wrist.
    i could not be happier! photos dont do justise here, what a beauty! ::psy::

    The funny thing is, that the "patina" i saw at the juweler the first time, is actually hardly noticable in the real light condition, almost imposible to capture on a photo (i am not that skilled). So it doesnt disterb me actually at all. I think it was a good deal.

    Even though the bracelet is solid and very comfortable, i find it to too thick, proportionly to the watch, so i put it on a leather strap. I also tried it on a NATO from Omega, military dial works realy great in that comination as well.

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    Edited Aug 6, 2019
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  9. Eve

    Eve Aug 15, 2019 2:00pm

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    I sent an email to Blancpain requesting what a new replacement dial with luminova markers for this model would cost. To my surprise the price is 240,- EUR plus 150 euros processing fee. Now that i was kind of positive about an affordable cost, i could not commit to sending in the watch for service :confused:
    On the one hand i would get a brand new functioning dial, on the other hand i would jeopardize originality by replacing the Tritium dial..
    The problem is, they dont return the original dial back to the owner, otherwise it would be a no-brainer for me.. :cautious:

    It is so absurd, initially i was hoping this watch would be luminova, and now i can not commit replacing the tritium dial. ::facepalm1::

    I guess i dont have to ask for opinions on this forum, knowing the majority values originality, and aged tritium..
    I cant caputre it on photo, but the lume does look kind of Beige.

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