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  1. sliceoftime_ Jun 5, 2015

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    Hey guys,

    Came across an interesting piece up for consideration.

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    A calibre 420 hand winding movement, ref 2735. I checked the Omega database and things seems to check out.

    What is unique is the hour makers, I have never seen anything like it. Anybody here have seen anything like it?

    Thanks,
    Kent
     
  2. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Jun 5, 2015

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    Yep, here's one I owned. Pretty cool markers.

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  3. sliceoftime_ Jun 5, 2015

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    That's almost identical. Is there a name for the particular hour marker?

    What is the ref of yours, Kyle? The difference seems to be the text of "Seamaster", case and crown. Would you say the case and crown has been replaced? Or even a redial?

    IMHO the dial looks good, but the crown worries me a little.
     
  4. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Jun 5, 2015

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    Mine was a 2577 with a Cal. 351 or 354, I can't remember. Your example looks pretty original IMO except for the crown. It's a cool little piece. :)
     
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  5. sliceoftime_ Jun 5, 2015

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    Sounds good, the seller even said the crown is original and signed, so I'll have to see once I get my hands on it.

    Anybody have experience with the 420 movement? I heard that its quite uncommon, just would like to know the experience people has with this movement.
     
  6. TNTwatch Jun 5, 2015

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    OP's watch got some wrong hands there, beside crown.
     
  7. sliceoftime_ Jun 5, 2015

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    As the database states it does have the luminous hands, however does that mean its wrong since there are quite a number of variants of the dial and hands for a specific model not included in the database?
     
  8. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Jun 5, 2015

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    Issue is your hands are too long. In general, the minute hand should only extend to the minute track. Yours goes further
     
  9. sliceoftime_ Jun 5, 2015

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    Sounds very interesting that you pointed that out.

    Did a bit of searching, and on the Omega database:
    http://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/heritage/vintage-watches-database?ref=20856
    It appears to have the picture with the minute hands going longer than the minute track.

    I think that in some cases, minute hands are suppose to be longer than the minute mark, not sure why in some cases its on the minute track, but some original examples it actually is longer.

    Do you know what determines the length of minute hands?
     
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  11. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Jun 5, 2015

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    THe image in OVD
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    shows a slight shadow of the minute hand over the minute track. In your original post, it goes all the way to the edge, which is significantly different. In vintage omega world, every rule can be broken, but given @kyle L 's example, and the fact that your second hand only goes to the minute track, I think it is a reasonable assumptin that your hands are too long. It would be odd to have the second hand shorter than the minute hand.
     
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  12. Sherbie Jun 5, 2015

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    The 420 is a great little movement. It was my first ever vintage Omega purchase - a little black 33 mm 1968 international collection watch. Of course, being a Noob, found out later it was a redial, but the accuracy was astounding - 1 s per day loss. I think they must have had a load if these 420 movements left over and so used them up in the late 60s. (Mine was a 29 million serial, case ref 2390-5, 2829)

    Didnt have the fantastic markers that your have though
     
  13. sliceoftime_ Jun 5, 2015

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    @CanberraOmega Good point! Thank you for explaining that for me!

    @Sherbie Thanks for that, not many people had the experience of using 420.

    Now debating if the dial is worth the trouble of the hands and crown being replaced!
     
  14. micampe Jun 5, 2015

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    Hands look the same as the OVD picture to me. Seconds hand is shorter there too.
     
  15. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Jun 6, 2015

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    Dial is definitely worth it! Otherwise I am sure there will be a few interested buyers here (inc myself)
     
  16. sliceoftime_ Jun 6, 2015

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    Yes, very unique hour markers and nicely even patina.

    Will post more pics once I have it.