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Black Dial Pie-Pans: If you’re asking for advice, you SHOULDN’T be buying one!

  1. Shabbaz Jun 26, 2021

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    Haha. It took me some time to see I once owned this one! Funny
     
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  2. fibonacci Jun 26, 2021

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    If it's an actual auction with time remaining then there's no reason the item would necessarily be dubious. You're talking about fixed-price listings. Even then, if it's with a high end dealer who is trying to push the price past the previous market high, causing collectors to hesitate, it could still be legit.
     
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  3. padders Oooo subtitles! Jun 26, 2021

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    With a regular Omega I start from the assumption it’s real and untouched then follow steps to see if it’s fake or redialled. With a black dial Omega dress watch it is safer to start from the assumption it’s fake and take steps to see if it’s real or original. I too think a noob should just pass the black dials by until they really know what they are doing. It will save a lot of time and heartache.
     
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  4. Olaa Jun 26, 2021

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    there seem to be two common types of colors of text, gilt or white/silver. Are there different manufacturers of the dials?
     
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  5. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jun 26, 2021

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    We need similar PSA for Ranchero. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to post warnings like this.
     
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  6. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Jun 26, 2021

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  7. cristos71 Jun 26, 2021

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    I was looking for years before I finally managed to find a black Connie. They just kept eluding me and it was frustrating when others showed up here with their latest black find. In the meantime I just kept looking and looking at pictures, reading and researching more.

    As has been said a good one is very tricky to identify for a new collector and when identified the key thing I'd say would be to be able to move quickly and close a deal.

    That being said I have bought three of mine from EBay in the last three years for prices I found extremely acceptable.

    These were all items listed as not for international sending, with poor pictures and in no reserve auctions, so advantageous for knowledable buyers.

    Here a couple of mine, left with white print and right with gilt. The 14381 is the most recent addition to my black Constellation collection and is also one of the EBay finds.

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  8. topfox59 Jun 26, 2021

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  9. topfox59 Jun 26, 2021

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    I’ve already found my ideal watch so this is a moot point.
    However , those black dial Constellations; especially Rose Gold are very special and I’m sure a very special price.
    I can understand all the interest. I will be satisfied (as will the wife) just to look at the pictures
     
  10. haddemall Jun 26, 2021

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    I am not into Connies but that is heart attack material right there. Congrats.
     
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  11. cineaste Jun 26, 2021

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    Those shipping restrictions are very advantageous, I managed to snag a black Seamaster 30 because of bad pictures and the seller not shipping abroad. Not as rare and desirable as a black Constellation, but not bad for my first Omega I guess.
     
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  12. perks713 Jun 26, 2021

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    Both sporting 1035’s too? Those bracelets look much better on those black dials than the 1035 did on my constellation.
     
  13. JLN765 Jun 26, 2021

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    As a total newbie, I guess I should have passed on it, then. This was my first vintage Omega.

    It now has the correct crown!
     
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  14. harrymai86 Jun 26, 2021

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    the guy Kabatime has posted a rose gold black dial constellation for 4250usd. for me black dial looks too small on wrist, I know they are rare and have their own charm but quite not does it for me.

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  15. MtV Jun 27, 2021

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    If I remember correctly, you picked this up from an Omega dealer, not from an eBay auction?
     
  16. cristos71 Jun 27, 2021

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    Not 1035s, they are on earlier versions, one a 7912 and the other a 7077
     
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  17. seekingseaquest Jun 27, 2021

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    I call redial on that one. Font isn’t consistent and doesn’t look gilt. Also, hands should be faceted.
     
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  18. seekingseaquest Jun 29, 2021

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  19. JLN765 Jun 29, 2021

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    Yes, that is correct. This watch was at a small satellite store (the main store is an Omega dealer) and the salesperson there didn't really know what it was. Whether through this outlet or eBay, it was through the help of the knowledgable folks here that helped me through the process.
     
  20. Sharp Jun 30, 2021

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    I am still hunting a clean one with steel dial furniture, feels like an impossible task at this point. Happy to have a steel/rose example though, recycling an old picture. One of my favourite Omega watches for sure.


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