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Best Practice for time adjusting for Diver 300M

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Hi All

Would like to ask if there is any best practice for time adjustment of Diver 300M?

Which option would you guys adopt?

1) Stop the watch at any point of the second hand. Adjust the desired time and start

2) Stop the watch only when the second hand at 0 sec or 12 o'clock. Then adjust to your desired time and start.

What's the pros and cons of both option 1 and 2? Which guys u all adopt?

Anything wrong with anyone who is going with option 1 and if it cause misalignment of the hour and minutes hand in time to come?
 
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Hi All

Would like to ask if there is any best practice for time adjustment of Diver 300M?

Which option would you guys adopt?

1) Stop the watch at any point of the second hand. Adjust the desired time and start

2) Stop the watch only when the second hand at 0 sec or 12 o'clock. Then adjust to your desired time and start.

What's the pros and cons of both option 1 and 2?

There are no pros or cons to either option to warrant either better than the other.

Which guys u all adopt?

Whichever I feel like at the time I pick up the watch.

Anything wrong with anyone who is going with option 1 and if it cause misalignment of the hour and minutes hand in time to come?

No. Absolutely not.
 
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There are no pros or cons to either option to warrant either better than the other.



Whichever I feel like at the time I pick up the watch.



No. Absolutely not.

Hi @josiahg52

Let say you use option 1 whereby the seconds is at 5 seconds of the watch, then u subconsciously adjust the minute hand very close to the end of the minute, when the time runs, won't the min hand and hour hand eventually be inaccurate and misaligned?
 
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I use my conscious mind to tell my subconscious to STFU, never had an issue.
 
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The watch is designed to hack, so i don’t see why you WOULDN’T hack it at 0, in order to get the hour and minute hands aligned properly. And to do it as close to zeroing it out as possible, you’ll have to set it ahead to the next minute and let it catch up.

One other thing, if you are resetting the time because you didn’t wear it and it stopped, it’s a good idea to wind it a little before setting the time if you want to to have good time-keeping.

But there’s no RIGHT way - the way I described is just how most people do it AND how the watch was engineered to set the time to a known reference.
 
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The watch is designed to hack, so i don’t see why you WOULDN’T hack it at 0, in order to get the hour and minute hands aligned properly. And to do it as close to zeroing it out as possible, you’ll have to set it ahead to the next minute and let it catch up.

One other thing, if you are resetting the time because you didn’t wear it and it stopped, it’s a good idea to wind it a little before setting the time if you want to to have good time-keeping.

But there’s no RIGHT way - the way I described is just how most people do it AND how the watch was engineered to set the time to a known reference.
Hi @Donn Chambers

Same like-minded as you! I prefer hacking it at 0 to catch the next minute!

Seems like this might be the best approach!😝
 
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Setting the watch does not affect the relative alignment of hour and minute hand. The only issue is whether the minute hand is perfectly aligned with the sweep hand. Most people do not obsess over this.
 
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Setting the watch does not affect the alignment of hour and minute hand.
@Dan S Care to elaborate more especially when second hand is not set at 0?
 
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@Dan S Care to elaborate more especially when second hand is not set at 0?

What is there to elaborate about? The hour and minute hands are locked together, you cannot affect their relative alignment by anything you do as you set the watch. Think about it. There can be a small offset between the minute hand and sweep hand depending on how you set it, but it will not change after you set the watch. The relative alignment will stay the same. And as I said, most people don't care. It's not always easy to get perfect alignment between sweep and minute hands, because of backlash (play in the geartrain).
 
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What is there to elaborate about? The hour and minute hands are locked together, you cannot affect their relative alignment by anything you do as you set the watch. Think about it.
@Dan S ok give you this scenario:

You have stopped your watch and the second hand is at 30s mark and the time is say 15:25:30

You decided to catch the 15:26:30 mark. You then start to turn the crown and accidentally set the minute hand very near to the end of the minute mark say 3/4 of the minute hand is nearest to the next minute of 27th minute when it should be say 1/2 way point between 26th and 27th minute.

You set it and the time starts to run.

Wont the minute hand be well ahead of the marking on the dial? (Misalignment to the marking on the dial)
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The watch doesn't care (in terms of wear & tear) either way. I personally do it the 2nd option more because it's easier to align the minute hand.
 
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@Dan S ok give you this scenario:

You have stopped your watch and the second hand is at 30s mark and the time is say 15:25:30

You decided to catch the 15:26:30 mark. You then start to turn the crown and accidentally set the minute hand very near to the end of the minute mark say 3/4 of the minute hand is nearest to the next minute of 27th minute when it should be say 1/2 way point between 26th and 27th minute.

You set it and the time starts to run.

Wont the minute hand be well ahead of the marking on the dial? (Misalignment to the marking on the dial)

Are you trolling me? You are just repeating what I already said twice, please read my previous responses.
 
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Are you trolling me? You are just repeating what I already said twice, please read my previous responses.
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Are you trolling me? You are just repeating what I already said twice, please read my previous responses.
@Dan S

Your post was edited. The yellow part of your message in the attached photo only came about when I was writing my message and I posted it.
 
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Hi All

Would like to ask if there is any best practice for time adjustment of Diver 300M?

Which option would you guys adopt?

1) Stop the watch at any point of the second hand. Adjust the desired time and start

2) Stop the watch only when the second hand at 0 sec or 12 o'clock. Then adjust to your desired time and start.

What's the pros and cons of both option 1 and 2? Which guys u all adopt?

Anything wrong with anyone who is going with option 1 and if it cause misalignment of the hour and minutes hand in time to come?

Since I bought my first watch decades ago I do 2. It's more fun.
 
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Since I bought my first watch decades ago I do 2. It's more fun.
I know right, the thrill of catching the second hand to land exactly at 0 haha
 
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Well are you also taking the lash out of the minute hand?
 
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Hi @josiahg52

Let say you use option 1 whereby the seconds is at 5 seconds of the watch, then u subconsciously adjust the minute hand very close to the end of the minute, when the time runs, won't the min hand and hour hand eventually be inaccurate and misaligned?

Inaccurate and misaligned compared to what?

To each other? No, absolutely not. The hour and minute hand alignment are set at the factory during movement assembly. In service, the only way their alignment to each other changes is if either slips on the pinion cannon which is a malfunction.

If you mean either to the seconds hand, that's the way the movement is designed. Moving the crown to the time-setting position stops the second hand - hacking the movement - and allows the hour and minute hand to be moved independently from the seconds hand in order to set the time. By design.

You can do option 1 - minding to remove backlash from the pinions - and when the seconds hand crosses the 60-second mark, the minute hand should be centered on a minute hash on the dial. Great.

You can do option 2 and the seconds hand will be at some arbitrary position when the minute hand is centered on a minute hash. Okay.

You could use option 1 this month and option 2 next month. The movement doesn't care and when it comes to reading the time off of an analog dial, it JUST DOESN'T MATTER.

You're worried about absolutely nothing and I've posted nothing here that hasn't already been posted by others.
 
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