Best and durable Omega movement now?

josiahg52 · Aug 2, 2023

S Speedy13
You don't get me!
You are talking from your perspective and you think this is what it is.
I am talking from my perspective and it's different.

I purchased Hamilton watches and they run within -2 to +3spd - no point to lie that's real!
It means the watch could be within just 1 minute per month. Even for 2 months you don't need to reset them.

No, I don't and you're Hamilton is pure junk compared to my Omega Seamaster. Therefore Omega is superior to Hamilton.

I had and have Omegas and they don't run like this. That's why I am asking for reliability, for accuracy. I like the brand but I don't see performance... both in reliability and accuracy. I don't see any benefit. That's why I am asking normal questions like is it possible to regulate it better?

Possible? It's not even required because as you can see my Omegas run the best. Omegas are the best, are super-reliable, and super-accurate. They are the best, plain and simple.

Ok, imagine you have 6 watches. 4 of them costs not more than $2k each once. You have an Omegas that costs thousands more and they are less accurate. How do you feel then? I have to mention not 1 Omega.

Are they running per the manufacturer's specifications? Is the hypothetical Omega? You know what you're buying. Omega - just like all the other brands who care - loudly proclaim their performance expectations. And how are you measuring accuracy? It probably differs significantly, putting it mildly, from how the manufacturer does. Wearing a watch inserts all sorts of inaccuracies. Rest assured, Omega and the others will consider your concern under warranty if you feel there is an issue. They might tell you to screw but they'll look at it.

SBK · Aug 2, 2023

What to think about the explanations in this video then ?

SBK · Aug 2, 2023

Since we are discussing accuracy, in this day and age, if extreme accuracy is desired, below is what I use for the few occasions when need accurate time. It costed me US $98, it's far better any Rolex, Omega, Hamilton, etc ... I even bought two of it.

All that said, I am searching for my first fine mechanical watch, for many other reasons than accuracy 😀

DrmexicoII · Aug 3, 2023

All this talk of accuracy is giving me a headache! If you want accuracy I'd go even further and get a casio F91W for a tenner. Job done. Any COSC certified (or above) watch will be accurate enough.

SBK · Aug 3, 2023

DrmexicoII
All this talk of accuracy is giving me a headache! If you want accuracy I'd go even further and get a casio F91W for a tenner. Job done. Any COSC certified (or above) watch will be accurate enough.

For practical purposes yes, I personally don't need any precision down to the seconds level. The TISSOT below is COSC certified, I have it but the goldish case is a little too flashy for my taste though. And look at the price ! It can even be used as a beater at that price ::psy::

I don't need that level of precision for my daily life.

Speedy13 · Aug 4, 2023

Archer
I feel lucky that my cheaper watches are running so well...

Archer, if your Omega got 5.2 sec per day (medium accuracy) cosc movement 85, would you personally regulate or not?
Leave it as it is? Is there a chance it will be better by itself later? I personally think that's too much
That's the accuracy after Biel after half a year. I thought at the beginning it was around 4 sec.. but now if you wear it a little bit less you see it's not even 4
I do scare a little bit to give it to local. E.g. fingerprints, dust and etc - we all know that's a problem with mechanical watches during service.
When they regulate, do they just open the case back and it could be done quickly? What do you recommend? Thank you!

Speedy13 · Aug 4, 2023

Archer, how we called that test on machine that shows all results in seconds/amplitude? Do you think it helps to understand how the watch runs in reality? I remember the watchmaker took my watch and come back in 10-15 minutes and told me my watch on dial up +1 sec, but that’s not true in reality.

For normal and detailed test in order to understand accuracy how quick the watch could be checked with that machine? Or it’s all very very approximate?
Or the best results our real results user-experience?

Archer · Aug 4, 2023

S Speedy13
Archer, if your Omega got 5.2 sec per day (medium accuracy) cosc movement 85, would you personally regulate or not?

It's within spec.

S Speedy13
What do you recommend? Thank you!

That you buy the Rolex you want.

S Speedy13
Archer, how we called that test on machine that shows all results in seconds/amplitude? Do you think it helps to understand how the watch runs in reality?

Yes, it helps. But it is a short term test so has limitations.

Speedy13 · Aug 4, 2023

Archer
Yes, it helps. But it is a short term test so has limitations.

Is it possible to make that test in all positions in 1 day? You would personally advise to make it to understand your watch or waste of money?

Archer · Aug 4, 2023

S Speedy13
Is it possible to make that test in all positions in 1 day? You would personally advise to make it to understand your watch or waste of money?

Typical test times are one minute for each position. So add it some settling time between positions, and you can do this test in under 15 minutes.

Deafcon · Aug 4, 2023

I think the question is can you make the watch run at +1 per second in all positions. I would say not easily and why? I aim for a delta under 15 seconds(delta is the difference between all the positions)as compared over 5 positions at both full wind and after 24 hours. Most movements you can get under a 10 second delta, which is really good.

Speedy13 · Aug 4, 2023

Archer
Typical test times are one minute for each position. So add it some settling time between positions, and you can do this test in under 15 minutes.

Thank you for explanation.
If so, then I will take my watches just to see how the machine tests differ from reality and whether it’s worth it.

Speedy13 · Aug 4, 2023

Deafcon
I think the question is can you make the watch run at +1 per second in all positions. I would say not easily and why? I aim for a delta under 15 seconds(delta is the difference between all the positions)as compared over 5 positions at both full wind and after 24 hours. Most movements you can get under a 10 second delta, which is really good.

delta for COSC movements sounds like 10 seconds? -4+6 ?

Archer · Aug 4, 2023

S Speedy13
delta for COSC movements sounds like 10 seconds? -4+6 ?

The -4 to +6 range is the range for the average of the positions tested. It is not a hard limit or range of delta.

Owlsu · Aug 13, 2023

SBK
Since we are discussing accuracy, in this day and age, if extreme accuracy is desired, below is what I use for the few occasions when need accurate time. It costed me US $98, it's far better any Rolex, Omega, Hamilton, etc ... I even bought two of it.

All that said, I am searching for my first fine mechanical watch, for many other reasons than accuracy 😀

That watch you posted there (solar multiband 6 G-Shock) is what I would technically say is probably the best watch in the world for almost all people.

It's great to appreciate mechanical piece's and fancy high art horology, but that $98 watch is more capable than anything else out there and the one I'd keep (I own one) above anything else if I could pick one watch.

Recent $800 odd Speedmaster servicing costs I was faced with made me appreciate that Casio and all it does a lot more.

Best and durable Omega movement now?

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