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  1. chiko7734 Nov 23, 2012

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  2. tyrantlizardrex Nov 23, 2012

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    That's beautiful
     
  3. pknopp Nov 23, 2012

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    I'm thinking that if it was mine and I wanted to sell it I would first find a nice back for it. As I said the last time, some engravings don't bother me. That one is nasty.
     
  4. tyrantlizardrex Nov 23, 2012

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    How much do those go for without ugly engravings?
     
  5. chiko7734 Nov 23, 2012

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    Ive seen them go for 1300-1700 in good condition
     
  6. MKelley Nov 23, 2012

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    If you found a good exact replacement case back & the price on the watch was right, you'd have yourself a nice one.
     
  7. chiko7734 Nov 23, 2012

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    I thought about it the first time around but I decided to pass just because there is so much else out there I want... and i actually prefer Omega to be written on the dial than applied like on this watch.
     
  8. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Nov 23, 2012

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    What is the deal with this? Why do people use shill bidding? Is it just the seller using a different account? What do they achieve out of it? Should we be suspicious about a seller that does this?
     
  9. chiko7734 Nov 23, 2012

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    I'm kind of ambivalent on the shill bidding issue. The way I see it, it's another way of setting a reserve price to your item. Is it dishonest? Yes it is
     
  10. ulackfocus Nov 23, 2012

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    The seller is counting on the real bidders to get a case of auction fever and outbid his shill account, therefore raising the end price.
     
  11. MKelley Nov 23, 2012

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    Exactly:thumbsup:
     
  12. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Nov 24, 2012

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    If that isn't unethical, then they need to take the word out of the dictionary.

    If he wants a reserve, then pay the extra couple of bucks and be honest about it.

    The first re-list I'll say it was a bad buyer. After that, I know what the game is.
    gatorcpa
     
  13. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Nov 24, 2012

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    Here's a message i got from a seller from East Europe who moves quite a lot of vintage watches:

    "Hello there, I'm turning to you because you were the second highest bidder few minutes ago with xxxx on my "XXXX" auction. The winning bidder just sent to me the following mail: "hello, sorry. I bid $ XXXX but I did not realize at the auction currency (GBP) and finally my bid was $ XXXX, much higher price than I can really afford. I hope you understand. was a stupid mistake on my part. anyway you may award the sale to the second interested in winning the auction. "....... so I take the opportunity to offer you this beautiful and unique watch on second chance offer. "

    How lucky am I?::censored::

    Note that he is offering it to me at the top of my snipe, e.g. just a few bucks less than his shill bid. Properly, it should have sold for just a few bucks above the third place bidder. Unless of course, that was a shill too.
    So shilling is not just about creating auction fever. It also raises the sale price for the item, assuming that the "Second-chance buyer" takes the bait....
     
  14. pknopp Nov 24, 2012

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    It also starts losing you actual bidders. Those who bid on items like this have been around and quickly figure out what is going on.
     
  15. chiko7734 Nov 24, 2012

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    Yeah I see your point. I have also gotten emails that the high bidder backed out and they were offering it to me. Whenever I see shill bidding going on, it definitely makes me want to stay away from the seller