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  1. noelekal

    noelekal Jun 20, 2015

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    This'll change the tone of the thread a bit. Taken on a recent antiquing trip through the Texas Hill Country, our 1992 Dodge D150 went along to haul back the "finds." Purchased new in November of 1991, it has something over 450,000 miles on it. Never a problem child, it has been more trouble-free each successive 100,000 miles driven.

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  2. Geo!

    Geo! Jun 21, 2015

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    Regarding the Bo'ness hill climb, was that the year that this flew over?

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  3. Alpha

    Alpha Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega Collector Jun 21, 2015

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    Afraid not, I missed that one.
     
  4. chunkythebulldog

    chunkythebulldog Jun 21, 2015

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    @pitpro don't want to turn this thread into a mine's bigger than yours (although it is ;)) so I'll stop being petty.
    If your M5 really can do 0-100mph in 3.2 seconds as stated let me know how much you want for it as I'll buy it off you and fly it back to England
     
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  5. proximal

    proximal Jun 23, 2015

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  6. i20rider

    i20rider Jun 23, 2015

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    Making 560 crank. So. 490ish wheel it would need a hella tire and or AWD . And it could probably do 0-100 "kph" in 3.2 but that's still pushing it
     
  7. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jun 23, 2015

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    They're actually not hard on tires at all, its surprisingly difficult to even break traction in the V10 M5/M6 unless you're trying as its not an engine that makes that much torque, last time I drove one of those V10s it was on 295 Michelin PSS rears and it felt like it was glued to the road, AWD would be pointless unless you were trying to go rallying in it.

    Its actually a slightly underwhelming car until you pass 4,000 and realise you're not even halfway to the rev limit, and even that isn't the real rev limit, BMW built the engine to rev to over 10,000 and make dramatically more power then detuned it to only ~500 to make it more customer and emissions friendly. What makes it quick is the massive amount of usable powerband and the immense speed that SMG3 box can shift into second (something I'm not good at, in the S5/S6 modes unless you can lift and get back on exactly in sync with the box it feels like you've been rear-ended by a large truck when it changes gear).

    Its a shame they never did an M6 CSL to show what the V10 was really capable of without the nanny state tuning, and now with turbos taking over we'll never get to see that sort of thing again.
     
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  8. Tony C.

    Tony C. Ωf Jury member Jun 23, 2015

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  9. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jun 23, 2015

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    Indeed :thumbsup:

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  10. pitpro

    pitpro Likes the game. Jun 23, 2015

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    ' its surprisingly difficult to even break traction in the V10 M5/M6 unless you're trying'
    Trying is the operative.
    "M" button on, S6, Traction control off, "rubber" in first 3 gear changes on mine


    'What makes it quick is the massive amount of usable powerband and the immense speed that SMG3 box can shift into second'
    60 milliseconds, when it came out faster than Ferrari gearboxes (100ms)
    and it's actually a manual transmission with an automated computer controlled Real clutch as opposed to a torque converter fluid based automatic
    Really cool to hear it drop the revs slightly to shift.

    ' (something I'm not good at, in the S5/S6 modes unless you can lift and get back on exactly in sync with the box it feels like you've been rear-ended by a large truck when it changes gear).'
    You get used to it.
    That slam you feel is the 60ms shift in "M" mode , basically what us old U,S. gearheads
    call a "power shift" , as in minimal clutching, and it's a serious slam back in your seat.

    Its a shame they never did an M6 CSL to show what the V10 was really capable of without the nanny state tuning, and now with turbos taking over we'll never get to see that sort of thing again.
    The closest thing to this was the Dinan Stroker kit for $40,000
    Bumped the hp to 628hp (no turbo, no supercharger)
    And BMW would honor the factory warranty.
    Turbos are great but just not the same.
     
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  11. i20rider

    i20rider Jun 23, 2015

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    40k for a rotating assembly... holy hell And only make 628. I think a $500 nitrous kit on a 100 shot would be a better way to go . And to think my LQ4 long block was less than 1k. And I only have about 5k in it. And it will make 800+ on the right fuel
     
  12. pitpro

    pitpro Likes the game. Jun 23, 2015

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    Bone stock 1/4 mi time for E60 M5 is 12.3 @117mph (no slouch)
    Here's a guy that did 10.57 @ 130.19mph with Nitrous Shot
    So if it's 507hp stock, what's that in Nitrous?
    I won't post the vid, I posted enough, but check it out
    http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-BMW-M5-Pictures-18103.html
     
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  13. i20rider

    i20rider Jun 23, 2015

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    10.50s @130 is moving. He is also AWD but as far as nitrous goes. It is gauged by HP. It depends on what he is jetted fo. 50 shot "around 50hp" 100 shot "100hp" and so on. There is no telling what shot he was running I'd figure at least a 150-200 shot
     
  14. pitpro

    pitpro Likes the game. Jun 23, 2015

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    M5 is RWD only
    150 shot it said
     
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  15. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jun 23, 2015

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    If they made the M5 AWD the torches and pitchforks would be out in front of the Munich office, its the same reason they'll never delete the 3-pedal manual options, the customer backlash would be vicious.

    They're copping enough flack for daring to release the FWD "Active Tourer" 2-Series with a BMW badge on it as it is.
     
  16. proximal

    proximal Jun 23, 2015

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    The next M5 will be AWD. Here are some photos of it testing: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/23/bmw-m5-awd-spy-shots/

    The E60 M5 was planned to be SMG only and I think it was sold that way in Europe. The US and some other regions got a manual option a couple years after launch, but I remember that it was a pretty hastily developed car. Despite all the complaining, I'd guess that more than 90% of them are sold with the automatic anyway.
     
  17. i20rider

    i20rider Jun 24, 2015

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    My apologies fellas for being miss informed about the Ms only being RWD. I saw the AWD motorsports sticker on his back glass. And I assumed the Ms were like the xi line.
     
  18. pitpro

    pitpro Likes the game. Jun 24, 2015

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  19. Tony C.

    Tony C. Ωf Jury member Jun 24, 2015

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    Now what would make you say that? Oh, perhaps this…

    0–60mph: 1.63 seconds

    60–130mph: 2.91 seconds

    Yikes!
     
  20. chunkythebulldog

    chunkythebulldog Jun 24, 2015

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    That's a beast. I've been in a GT-R Nismo which is the quickest car I've ever been in but that thing is bonkers fast.