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Authentic or not ZENITH cal.106-6

  1. Zdzislaw

    Zdzislaw Aug 28, 2019

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    Hello there, thinking about this watch. Please share any insights including price range. Thank you in advance. Glass removed for the photos...
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  2. Tony C.

    Tony C. Ωf Jury member Aug 28, 2019

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    An image of the the inside of the case back is required for authenticity checks. Although large, the style, both dial and gold-capped case, are not widely desirable in the vintage market, so the value will be limited even if original.
     
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  3. CaptainWinsor

    CaptainWinsor Aug 28, 2019

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    I’ll have to somewhat disagree with my fellow collector Tony on this one. I would buy that. I like the dial and the Rose Gold capped case but he’s probably right. The majority of vintage collectors would pass but I love Zenith and I haven’t seen that combo before
     
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  4. Zdzislaw

    Zdzislaw Aug 28, 2019

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    Thanks - always great to hear other opinion. Some raw price estimation please? I like simplicity about this one and the fact the the dial appears to be original. :)
     
  5. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Aug 28, 2019

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    Not a Zenith person, but a case with that much obvious wear would put me off on pretty much any watch, add to that the less than nice dial and bad hands, not much up side on this example.
     
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  6. Zdzislaw

    Zdzislaw Aug 28, 2019

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  7. Vitezi

    Vitezi Aug 28, 2019

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    Since these watches would sit on your wrist, what we think about them doesn't matter. :) However, if you're interested in learning (from a collectors point of view) about what to look for in a vintage piece - and what to avoid - then take a moment to read these threads:
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/condition-condition-condition-and-other-pieces-of-advice.1716/
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/
    After absorbing the knowledge in those threads, perhaps take another good look at your examples above and tell us what attributes you see, good and bad.
     
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  8. Zdzislaw

    Zdzislaw Aug 28, 2019

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    Thanks. I have already done fishing thread and will check the second one.
     
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  9. CaptainWinsor

    CaptainWinsor Aug 28, 2019

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    Yes if you intend on wearing them it doesn’t matter. The dial on that one is plain IMO but the case back is nice as it has the Zenith shield which you don’t see a lot. It all comes down to price condition and rarity.
     
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  10. Dan S

    Dan S Aug 28, 2019

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    Both of the watches in this thread have condition issues (to the case and dial, respectively) serious enough to make me avoid them.
     
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  11. CaptainWinsor

    CaptainWinsor Aug 28, 2019

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    I agree for the most part but if you’re just starting a lot of times you can’t afford to buy the best examples. I’m the type of collector that buys pieces I like but also pieces that are uncommon even with damage just because I want an example. A lot of people here are very serious collectors and only want as close to pristine as possible. With the deco stuff I used to collect, that was impossible but with watches, so many were made you can be more patient and selective. So I guess that’s where my thinking comes from.

    Here’s my collecting mantra. Do you like it enough that if you can’t sell it, you can live with it. If I can’t I won’t buy it
     
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  12. Dan S

    Dan S Aug 28, 2019

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    I guess I have a sliding scale of the condition I will accept based on the rarity/quality/importance of the piece. For these gold plated watches that are really nothing special, I would only consider something in really fine condition.
     
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  13. Zdzislaw

    Zdzislaw Aug 28, 2019

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  14. CaptainWinsor

    CaptainWinsor Aug 28, 2019

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    Looks fine at quick glance. Not worth much to collectors so I can’t see why someone would try to hide a redial or more. What is the asking price
     
  15. Zdzislaw

    Zdzislaw Aug 28, 2019

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    Thanks for reply. 500 USD - how does it sound to you?
     
  16. Dan S

    Dan S Aug 28, 2019

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    It’s not unpolished, but the case is in pretty good condition. Just sort of basic and plain. What is the case size?
     
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  17. Zdzislaw

    Zdzislaw Aug 28, 2019

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    Thanks for reply. 35mm. How can you tell it is polished?
     
  18. Dan S

    Dan S Aug 28, 2019

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    When the ends of the backs of the lugs are obviously polished it’s clear the there has been some polishing done. Also, all scratches have been removed and the edges are slightly soft. Just typical dealer prep, not too bad.
     
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  19. CaptainWinsor

    CaptainWinsor Aug 28, 2019

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    Way too much IMO.
     
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  20. Zdzislaw

    Zdzislaw Aug 28, 2019

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    Thanks for that and much appreciated.