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At what point is my new Deville Tresor running too fast?

  1. wythes Oct 23, 2016

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    I recently purchased a new Deville Tresor. When the UPS guy delivered it, it wasn't running so I have it a full wind. After about 4-5 twists of the crown the watch started running as expected.

    I did a little test to see how accurate this watch really is. After a full wind, I set the Tresor to the exact same hour, minute and second as my Timex Ironman (quartz) and my Orient Bambino v4 (automatic). After about 20 hours the Tresor is 5 seconds faster than both the Timex and Orient.

    Is running 5-6 seconds fast after about 24 hours normal? I've been reading about the 'state of the art' movement found in the Deville Tresor and so I'm a bit concerned that it's not holding steady with two other watches, especially given the amount the Tresor costs! Interestingly, the time on the Timex and Orient are in lock-step after 20 hours.

    BTW - I bought the Tresor from a reputable website - not an authorized dealer - and also had a reputable Omega repair shop take a look and verify it's authenticity. So I'm not worried that this watch isn't anything other than real.
     
  2. ulackfocus Oct 23, 2016

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    ::facepalm2::

    When you can't catch it anymore.

    ::rimshot::
     
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  3. Canuck Oct 23, 2016

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    How much help is the "reputable dealer" likely to be in attending to your concerns? Do you have an Omega warranty, or is it a dealer warranty? Are you telling us that your Orient automatic can match the time kept by your quartz Timex? Really? That'll be a first! Are you under the misguided impression that a mechanical watch will match the accuracy of a quartz watch?
     
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  4. SeanO Oct 23, 2016

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    mechanical watches lost that battle nearly 50 years ago.
     
  5. wythes Oct 23, 2016

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    I fully understand that any mechanical watch will run faster or slower than a quartz. What I want to know is at what point does a mechanical watch need to be serviced because it's running faster/slower than is acceptable. The Deville Tresor has a 8511 caliber movement. Is it OK that this movement can/will run 6+ seconds fast over a 24 hour period?
     
  6. wythes Oct 23, 2016

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    Found this website which sheds some light on accuracy of manual watches:
    https://www.prestigetime.com/page.php?accuracy
     
  7. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Oct 23, 2016

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    Chronometer grade mans cosc spec. Cosc is -4/+6 a day. So you do the math.

    If you have a bambino under -/+2 then congrats.
     
  8. Jones in LA Isofrane hoarder. Oct 23, 2016

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    Your Tresor's (apparent) timekeeping is within the specifications for a certified chronometer, and if it were my watch I wouldn't worry a bit. Since your watch tends to run on the fast side of zero I recommend winding it once every day even though its power reserve is significantly longer than 24 hrs: a more tightly wound mainspring usually results in a lower beat rate.
     
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  9. mozartman ♫♭♬ ♪ Oct 23, 2016

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    The last time my edc with an ETA movement came back from the watchmaker, it ran within 1 second every 3 days, which isn't that far from a good quartz watch that can be within a second every 10-15 days. But after a couple months it settled into gaining about 5 seconds a day, where it has remained since. My watchmaker tells me that's normal. It was also off by 5 seconds a day when it was new.
     
  10. wythes Oct 23, 2016

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    Good to know. Thanks.
     
  11. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Oct 24, 2016

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    The Cal. 8511, and all Omega COSC watches, have a tolerance of from -1 to +6 seconds per day for average daily rate.

    Cheers, Al