Art deco watch in 18k gold

[JayTee72]

I recently bought this watch in France just because I loved the case. I would think that it is from the 1940s, but it looks almost unused. I have not been able to find anything similar and would be interested to hear if anyone has any information or ideas about the maker. The case and the buckle both have the French eagle's head hallmark for 18k gold. The glass is mineral glass and unusually thick. Dimensions are 27x32 mm. As I am not a watchmaker, I don't want to open the back to look for a movement number.

 

[gatorcpa]

I think you have all the information you are going to get without having the watch opened up. Inside the watch, you are likely to find a French maker’s mark, case serial number (which for French watches, generally follows the Swiss dating), movement caliber and serial numbers.

Without this, all you can do is hope to find a late 1940’s French Omega catalog and get very lucky.
gatorcpa

 

[X350 XJR]

Can't add any more that hasn't been said by gator, it's a lovely piece though.

 

[galaxytime]

Look forward to seeing some more pics when/if you take it to a watchmaker to open up.

 

[JayTee72]

galaxytime

Look forward to seeing some more pics when/if you take it to a watchmaker to open up.

I managed to get to a watchmaker today. The movement number is 11303713, which would seem to date to 1947. The case is numbered 10733257 and bears the maker's mark "JP." Any idea who this is?

 

[gatorcpa]

Based on a combination of both serial numbers, I’d say watch dates from around 1948-49. I don’t know the maker’s name, but suspect you will find other French made cases with that mark.
gatorcpa

 

[speedb]

JayTee72

"JP." Any idea who this is

JP was the main case maker for Omega in France and their quality is considered to be par with Swiss casemakers - don't know much more than that.

 

[JayTee72]

Thanks, everyone!

 

[Syrte]

Very cool watch. Maybe @S.H. or @Tire-comedon know that case maker? Haven’t seen them around lately though.

 

[aprax]

According to forumamontres JP stands for Jules Person. The other french case maker hallmark which appears quite frequently on 18k french cased watches of the fifties is Paul Frank. They used a lozenge shaped hallmark with what looks like "PGF" inside. But the G is not an actual letter but some kind of symbol, apparently.

 

[TimeODanaos]

Nice watch @JayTee72 , thanks for showing. For how we arrive at JP, you might like to consider this thread.

 

[JayTee72]

Thanks, aprax, that's perfect. It looks as though he made cases for other high-end brands like Rolex and Boucheron.

 

[Larry S]

Syrte

Very cool watch. Maybe @S.H. or @Tire-comedon know that case maker? Haven’t seen them around lately though.

It’s a cool watch in great shape but…is it Art Deco? I can’t decide.

 

[drose224]

Very nice watch. Wear it well and often.

 

[Syrte]

@Franc

Larry S

It’s a cool watch in great shape but…is it Art Deco? I can’t decide.

nope -not art deco. it’s typical 1940s

 

[JayTee72]

Syrte

@Franc

nope -not art deco. it’s typical 1940s

You're right - it's more mid-century.

 

[S.H.]

Lovely! Never saw that mark...

 

[Syrte]

aprax

According to forumamontres JP stands for Jules Person.

Well there’s a proof of it in that French government database that @kedrico linked in the thread below which you dug up again !

https://omegaforums.net/threads/help-case-france.127354/page-2

https://pop.culture.gouv.fr/search/mosaic?base=["Ressources biographiques (Autor)"]&mainSearch="Jules person"