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Are there any original military watches left? I can’t find any...

  1. HairspringHarry Jan 27, 2020

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    Hi guys
    Venting my frustration at the fact that every time I am offered military watches 95% of the time they are wrong. I’ve probably dealt with 20 or 30 of them now and upon closer inspection I always notice mismatched numbers, wrong hands, arrows, movements, cases, crowns etc. I’m beginning to think finding a nice original vintage military watch is becoming a very difficult challenge.

    I guess when they became popular everyone starting grabbing bits of them and putting them together.

    rant over!

    HH
     
  2. SpeedyPhill Founder Of Aussie Cricket Blog Mark Waugh Universe Jan 30, 2020

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    Real military watches got abused a lot, especially those on loan which were worn by several officers over a period of 25+ years... yes not everyone had his own watch and had to loan one from sierra4 services!
     
  3. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Jan 30, 2020

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    Deep pockets and great knowledge are needed these days for military watches.

    Due to the higher prices in any watch model or type, the dishonesties increase with the price increase
     
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  4. janice&fred Jan 30, 2020

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    i'm not sure I understand the OP. there are in fact plenty of authentic military issued watches to be had. is it the increasing prices that limits the OP's access?
     
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  5. Alpha Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega Collector Jan 30, 2020

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  6. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Jan 30, 2020

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    An all original Railmaster/Seamaster 2914-5 PAF, from a respected seller, sat on this forum, unsold, for months. Perhaps you’re not looking hard enough?
     
  7. downtownbobbyb Jan 31, 2020

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    Keep your eyes on this and other respected forums. I just picked up a lovely, all original, serviced Swedish military Candino for what I considered to be a very reasonable price.
     
  8. Dan S Jan 31, 2020

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    I think most of us could say this about all vintage watches. In fact, finding one good piece out of every 20 would make me pretty happy.
     
  9. janice&fred Feb 1, 2020

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    I agree when in the setting of hunting on the internet. However even then one doesn't need to look too far to find good pieces. take for instance this forum and other respected forums like MWR and VRF. Surely a quick perusal of the sales sections will turn up much more than your 1-to-20 ratio of good pieces. The salient issue is the prices for these good pieces, not whether one can find enough of them to choose from. If the OP is looking for Shayet 13 Kontiki's and broad arrow SM300's for $1000 like in the old days then he's plum outa luck...
     
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  10. Alpha Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega Collector Feb 1, 2020

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    Happy days :D
     
  11. kingsrider Thank you Sir! May I have another? Feb 1, 2020

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    Hi guys
    Venting my frustration at the fact that every time I am offered -----------------------watches 95% of the time they are wrong. I’ve probably dealt with 20 or 30 of them now and upon closer inspection I always notice mismatched numbers, wrong hands, arrows, movements, cases, crowns etc. I’m beginning to think finding a nice original vintage ------------------------ watch is becoming a very difficult challenge.

    I guess when they became popular everyone starting grabbing bits of them and putting them together.

    rant over!

    Stock rant boiler plate Insert desired watch in the blank space
     
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  12. redpcar Feb 1, 2020

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    It is a generic rant.
    Must be looking for more rare "military" watches than I have. I'm guessing a Bulova, Elgin, Waltham military watch is not on your list :rolleyes:.
    When you get into the low production numbers of released watches (higher priced) you have to expect more unscrupulous sellers in the mix.
     
  13. MTROIS Feb 1, 2020

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    As a matter of fact... should anyone be aware of a legit Tudor Sub issued by the French Marine Nationale (Tudor MN snowflake) being up for sale.... don't hesitate to DM me! :D
     
  14. HairspringHarry Feb 4, 2020

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    Cheers for the replies guys. I was just annoyed at the time as I visited a local collector who promised some nice examples (Lemania, HS9), Lemania WWW, Omega 6B/159 and some others. When I got there all had wrong hands or mismatched numbers or dial font etc.

    Maybe I've just been unlucky with what I have been offered recently. I guess if I really want a nice example it will be time to hunt one down on the suggested forums and pay the higher price for one.

    Cheers
    HH
     
  15. DaveK Yoda of Yodelers Feb 8, 2020

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  16. Alpha Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega Collector Feb 8, 2020

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    Not at the higher end of collectability but at i.t.r.o. a couple of hundred quid and 100% genuine :thumbsup:
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  17. CdnWatchDoc Feb 8, 2020

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    Actually, that NATO is new...I can't see any sweat/salt stains... :whistling:
     
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  18. Alpha Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega Collector Feb 8, 2020

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    Not a NATO as such, one of a bunch of charity sales I picked up from ‘Revo’ a while back and without checking back I think they were RAF pieces ?

    A task for tomorrow and hopefully I’ll report back.
     
  19. Alpha Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega Collector Feb 9, 2020

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    Update, yes a rare occasion but my memory was spot on, RAF issue.
    I suspect Ollie may still have some left if you were interested, a lovely soft strap :thumbsup:

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  20. CdnWatchDoc Feb 9, 2020

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    Great research Stuart, I retract my friendly poke...
    This is an all original watch, with a cracking NATO strap that I obtained from Stuart 2019-11-16 17.20.01.jpg
     
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