Are the dial and handset original to this Seamaster?

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Hi all,

I was contemplating buying this 50's Seamaster, but ultimately decided against it. The crown is aftermarket, which I imagine is not a problem to fix. The dial and hands look much more like they came from the late 60s to me. Am I correct? I could not find anything similar for this reference (2846).

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Yeah I don’t think these started life together. I don’t recall seeing onyx markers until 1960 or later and judging by the case back, this 2846 is pre-1958. Hands on a 2846 should also be dauphine.
 
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This is my auction. I bought this on a whim last week and didn’t like how the case shape wore on my wrist.

I can’t say if the hands or dial are original, but I appreciate the analysis here and wondered similar things myself.

I also wondered about that ‘S’ on the dial, because I hand’t seen one quite like it. In trying to research on here, I came across a thread that basically said there are too many text variations to count in the Seamaster line from this era. Based on the quality of the printing, my conclusion was the dial is original (or at least not a redial if not original to the watch). If others want to weigh in I’d on that point as well, I’d be interested in other opinions.

Happy to update the listing if we can arrive at any consensus, and if any OFer were interested in this watch, I’d offer a pretty hefty discount on a direct sale. (I hope that’s okay for me to say in this thread. If not, please let me know and I’ll edit to remove.)
 
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I also wondered about that ‘S’ on the dial, because I hand’t seen one quite like it. In trying to research on here, I came across a thread that basically said there are too many text variations to count in the Seamaster line from this era. Based on the quality of the printing, my conclusion was the dial is original (or at least not a redial if not original to the watch). If others want to weigh in I’d on that point as well, I’d be interested in other opinions.
Good for you for chiming in!

I think the dial and hands may be original omega, just not original to the movement or case.
 
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Good for you for chiming in!

I think the dial and hands may be original omega, just not original to the movement or case.

Thank you for the input. I’ve updated my listing to reflect this.
 
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Yeah I don’t think these started life together. I don’t recall seeing onyx markers until 1960 or later and judging by the case back, this 2846 is pre-1958. Hands on a 2846 should also be dauphine.

Thanks, glad to see that I am learning something here.
 
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It's likely a service dial and hands made for this movement and not some butcher job or redial.
 
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I wound up pulling the listing down, at least for the time being. Thinking about this last discussion last night, I realized I had this dial in my parts drawer:



To me, it seems much closer to the style for this reference. I’m going to see if I can source a marker for the missing one at 4, along with a handset and crown, and get this back closer to the original reference.

Here is the case with the dial installed:



(The ‘6’ marker still has both feet, but it keeps falling off the dial, so I have it in a separate bag for now.)

I’m curious what others think about this project, dial / case combination, or any other thoughts. Maybe I’ll also look for a later 501 watch that needs the dial / hands replaced and use the ones that came on this watch when I bought it.

(If I were to sell this, I’d outline any parts I had added, swapped, etc.)