Apparently a 100th Anniversary for Omega 18K Rose gold

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Spillyj

·Tues. 12:17am

So I have tried to research this watch through AI and general internet searches.... I have not truly identified this watch as of yet.

It is 18K Rose Gold, cal 30.10RA, reference number 2500. I have had prices thrown at me as value from $2500 to $16,000. My guess is obviously somewhere in-between.
Any real Omega pros with what I have here would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Joel

 

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OneTwo

·Tues. 12:23am

Spillyj

So I have tried to research this watch through AI and general internet searches.... I have not truly identified this watch as of yet.

It is 18K Rose Gold, cal 30.10RA, reference number 2500. I have had prices thrown at me as value from $2500 to $16,000. My guess is obviously somewhere in-between.
Any real Omega pros with what I have here would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Joel

Looks like a charming watch, but what is your goal in posting here?

Do you want a community of enthusiasts and collectors of this particular brand to provide you with market value for a watch that some here may be interested in purchasing? I.e. it's not taken too kindly to solicit the market of potential buyers for what you should be asking them to pay. Or are you looking for information about the reference to further your knowledge as an owner / custodian?

 

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Spillyj

·Tues. 12:27am

OneTwo

Looks like a charming watch, but what is your goal in posting here?

Do you want a community of enthusiasts and collectors of this particular brand to provide you with market value for a watch that some here may be interested in purchasing? I.e. it's not taken too kindly to solicit the market of potential buyers for what you should be asking them to pay. Or are you looking for information about the reference to further your knowledge as an owner / custodian?

The goal is to find out more about the apparently very rare watch from Omega. I would like to keep it and if I choose to wear it, I would like to know what this watch should be insured for. Not for sale right now, but in my personal watch collection nothing has lasted over 10 years with me.

 

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Spillyj

·Tues. 12:35am

From what I have learned, this watch is just before the Constellation era and it is Omega's first automatic (bumper) chronometer movement made. Produced for the 1948 100th Anniversary of Omega. Not many examples with the rose gold and the dial combination were ever produced. The serial number makes it a 1946 so I am not sure if the info websites have provided seem to be accurate. Trying to get the accuracy of its history correct!

 

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OneTwo

·Tues. 12:40am

Ah okay got it. Appreciate the clarification and welcome to the forum. Please excuse the reservations but if you spend time here, it will become more clear why the vague early posts get approached with some skepticism.

I'm not too familiar with these bumper references, nor can speak to how uncommon they might be, but since you were able to remove the snap back, a photo of the inside of the case back will be very helpful for those who are more familiar. Might even show if it's a solid gold case. I suspect so by the presence of the hallmarks on the lugs but I'll leave that to more adept eyes for these. Looks to be a charming early bumper movement example. Hope you find some more educated replies and wear it in good health.

 

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Spillyj

·Tues. 12:54am

Here is a picture of the inside back cover.

 

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SpeedyPhill

·Tues. 1:02am

Using AI to research wrist watches ?
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https://omegaforums.net/threads/literature-on-specific-watches-blancpain-rolex-omega-panerai-book-reviews.92633/

Thread 'Literature on specific watches - Blancpain Rolex Omega Panerai book reviews' ·

Most forum-members know there're some good "general" books about certain wristwatch brands (e.g. the 2007 Omega A Journey in Time by Marco Richon and the 2008 Vintage Rolex Sports...

SpeedyPhill · Apr 3, 2019

 

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Mark020

·Tues. 1:49am·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

What does AI say about the print of the dial?

 

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MtV

·Tues. 2:17am

Joel,

read this for more info:

https://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/2009/09/omega-constellation-gene-pool.html?m=1

Also, take the 16k$ offer. It’s a multiple of what the watch is worth. In fact, even 2.5k$ was a pretty fair offer given the dial was unprofessionally redone.

Pic of mine, also RG, with a dial as it left the factory:

Edited: Tues. 7:09am

 

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Spillyj

·Tues. 3:34am

MtV

Joel,

read this for more info:

https://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/2009/09/omega-constellation-gene-pool.html?m=1

Also, take the 16k$ offer. It’s a multiple of what the watch is worth. In fact, even 2.5k$ was a pretty fair offer given the dial was unprofessionally redone.

Pic of mine, also RG, with a dial as if left the factory:

 

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·Tues. 3:37am

So I do find it interesting how one person asks about the AI comments on the dial and then the next person comments with his picture of his example which has a totally different dial. AI actually commented that this is a dial variation. From the 3 long time professional vintage deals who have seen the watch not one said it was a redial.

 

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Spillyj

·Tues. 3:38am

Would Omega themselves have an archive on their watches? Who would I contact if so?

 

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Mark020

·Tues. 5:28am·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Their archives are closed for the moment and they will not tell you anything about the originality of the dial anyway

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Mark020

·Tues. 5:29am·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Spillyj

the next person comments with his picture of his example which has a totally different dial

That might be a clue

 

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gatorcpa

·Tues. 5:53am·ΩF InvestiGator

Spillyj

From the 3 long time professional vintage deals who have seen the watch not one said it was a redial.

IYKYK. Those “dealers” obviously don’t know.

The Omega Centenary was so popular when it was first released in 1948 that what was supposed to be a very limited run was made for several years.

Mark020

Their archives are closed for the moment and they will not tell you anything about the originality of the dial

That moment has been about three years and counting.

For the OP’s benefit as to why, some Omega employees connected to their archives were allegedly involved with some fraud related to vintage watches. Their trial hasn’t happened yet and I doubt it ever will.
gatorcpa

 

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cristos71

·Tues. 6:12am

Definitely a redial, wrong crown too. Still an attractive watch though, I'd say €1750-€2000 as is. The redial will kill the value.

 

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Tony C.

·Tues. 6:30am·Ωf Jury member

Spillyj

From the 3 long time professional vintage deals who have seen the watch not one said it was a redial.

They are either very poorly informed, or not being honest.

 

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cristos71

·Tues. 6:35am

Spillyj

From the 3 long time professional vintage deals who have seen the watch not one said it was a redial.

Did any of them make an offer? If so how much?

 

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MtV

·Tues. 6:53am

I‘d be more interested to hear who made the 16k$ offer. Would happily sell them 10.

 

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Spillyj

·Tues. 12:25pm

No one made a 16k offer. This was was chat gtp suggested as a high end of its value. I am aware that using AI can give bloated suggestions as to pricing.