Hi there everyone,

Apologies if these threads are starting to irritate anyone, however I only make these if I'm really confused about the authenticity of a watch.

I think if this one turns out not to be authentic I'll just go onto Chrono 24.

Anyway I'm being offered this 18k gold Audemars Piguet by someone on eBay and thusly I wanted to see if it was atleast genuine. It seems to have all the markings and stamps needed, however I'm confused about the movement.

The seller apparently had the watch's gold metal confirmed by two jewellers who said the gold was genuine. The dial looks to be exactly identical to a genuine watch. However I'm not too sure about two of the front screws, they look like they've got the ingrained lines too far up or down the screw. (2nd right and 3rd left)


Thanks for your time everyone!

 

Hey SlowPokerFace
I can't tell if it is a gold watch and you are right about the screws but on the third screw left if you make zoom you can see
that the line is in the middle.It is the light that makes it look like its not in the middle of the screw.
I can't say the same thing for the second screw on the right,even with zoom looks bad.

 

Yep indeed, I've just gotten another photo and the screws are centred. Thanks so much for your reply by the way.

A shot of the movement too; which seems to be a 3120 calibre which is present in this watch across the board.

 

Jesus Christ I mean this is what, a $50,000 watch and the guy can’t give you some halfway decent pictures?

 

Indeed that's what I was thinking. From the photos the movement has EVERYTHING a 3120 should have, however I'm not an expert and so I've gotta ask people.

I do have eBay's money back guarantee, but I'm still not too sure. Is there anyone with a watch very similar to this one who can shed some light on this situation?

 

If you have the money for this level of watch, should you really be bargain hunting on Ebay? why not contact a reputable dealer like European Watch? While their asking prices will be higher, they negotiate, guarantee authenticity and provide a warranty. The ancillary benefits including peace of mind would probably make up for the ebay discount.

 

Yep, that's what I'm attempting to do. So far he is perfectly accommodating and understanding, quite friendly too.

More photos of the movement here. Plus the watch in its sheath.

 

Plus photos of the bracelet and clasp.

 

Indeed I understand. It's a big gamble since there's just so many hallmarks on it I've not seen on fakes but have seen on real watches... Such as the markings on the clasp which fakes don't seem to have.

Well, I mean there's an eBay money back guarantee so I suppose there's really nothing to lose here if things go wrong. I'll just get my money back.

Also that article is nice to read, thank you for linking it. It's good to know eBay are trying to stamp out fakes and actually seem to care for their buyers... Or their sales and reputation. Either way it's good for me.

 

He is quite accommodating in sending you blurry low res photos, at odd angles, obscured by the flash.

Honestly, at this price point why are you dicking around with this guy on ebay? True they do have buyers protection but for items with this costs it gets escalated to their investigation people. It's not like they are going to refund your $50K the next day because you say its fake. And jesus christ what if they believe the seller?

 

This is exactly why I've made a thread about the watch. I appreciate your firm advice greatly.

You mentioned a European watch?
From what you've said they seem to be reputable but I can't find them online, are they a dealer on Chrono24 or a standalone shop?

Thanks for your time everyone, it's truly appreciated.

 

https://www.europeanwatch.com/

They have a brick-and-mortar location in Boston and strong online presence via their website and eBay

https://www.europeanwatch.com/30000.html