Anyone purchased a Code41 watch before?

JetLinks · Jan 27, 2021

I've seen this brand pop up and they seem to have some pretty cool looking watches, especially the latest chronograph that was released for sale today, named the NB24, which has the oscillating weight on the front face.

https://code41watches.com/projects/nb24/

Has anyone purchased one of their previous models and if so, how do you like it?

DSotW · Jan 27, 2021

I can't say I'm a fan of the brand. They went from bashing "Swiss Made" and proclaiming themselves as "disruptors" of the Swiss watch industry who were going to expose Swiss Made for the farce that it was, to now embracing "Swiss Made" to add authenticity to the movement in this watch? Ok, yeah, so the cheap Asian made watch approach didn't work, so now they are selling this for CHF 3'895 (+/- USD 4'400)... I'm sure some people will like it, but personally it's a case of thanks, but no thanks.

MyNameIsNigel · Jan 28, 2021

BS ALERT FLAG.

CODE41 can be taken very seriously and there is no doubt in my mind that the NB24 will be a success much like the previous two projects, the DAY41 and the truly superb X41. It is not too late to preorder the NB24. I did that myself yesterday and am lucky to be part of the first five hundred people that managed to get one.

The NB24 movement is in essence based on a Valjoux 7750 architecture with specific modifications, including this very interesting peripheral oscillating weight (like the X41) but visible on the front face this time. An interesting feature that is neatly integrated.

For this NB24 project, CODE41 have partnered with Concepto in Switzerland to design and produce this beautiful movement exclusively for CODE41. Assembly is performed entirely by hand in Switzerland.

CODE41 are fully transparent on the origin of the components, hence the TTO ("Total Transparency on Origin") marking. They intentionally do not make use of the "Swiss Made" marking which they consider to be misleading (and rightly so). In effect, the NB24 Chronograph would clearly qualify as being "Swiss Made" although the case, dial and strap are not of Swiss origin. CODE41 should not be blamed for being fully transparent and honest in that respect.

EDIT: At this hour 701 pieces have already been preordered (there are currently 199 remaining pieces out of the second batch of 500 pieces), i.e. approx. 3,2 million CHF (3,6 million USD) of preorders. Not a bad start.

Trev · Feb 16, 2021

M MyNameIsNigel
CODE41 can be taken very seriously and there is no doubt in my mind that the NB24 will be a success much like the previous two projects, the DAY41 and the truly superb X41. It is not too late to preorder the NB24. I did that myself yesterday and am lucky to be part of the first five hundred people that managed to get one.

The NB24 movement is in essence based on a Valjoux 7750 architecture with specific modifications, including this very interesting peripheral oscillating weight (like the X41) but visible on the front face this time. An interesting feature that is neatly integrated.

For this NB24 project, CODE41 have partnered with Concepto in Switzerland to design and produce this beautiful movement exclusively for CODE41. Assembly is performed entirely by hand in Switzerland.

CODE41 are fully transparent on the origin of the components, hence the TTO ("Total Transparency on Origin") marking. They intentionally do not make use of the "Swiss Made" marking which they consider to be misleading (and rightly so). In effect, the NB24 Chronograph would clearly qualify as being "Swiss Made" although the case, dial and strap are not of Swiss origin. CODE41 should not be blamed for being fully transparent and honest in that respect.

EDIT: At this hour 701 pieces have already been preordered (there are currently 199 remaining pieces out of the second batch of 500 pieces), i.e. approx. 3,2 million CHF (3,6 million USD) of preorders. Not a bad start.

And are you associated with CODE41 or Concepto? What is your relation to these companies? Some transparency would be nice.

That's quite the first post.

Woops · Feb 16, 2021

M MyNameIsNigel
CODE41 can be taken very seriously and there is no doubt in my mind that the NB24 will be a success much like the previous two projects, the DAY41 and the truly superb X41. It is not too late to preorder the NB24. I did that myself yesterday and am lucky to be part of the first five hundred people that managed to get one.

The NB24 movement is in essence based on a Valjoux 7750 architecture with specific modifications, including this very interesting peripheral oscillating weight (like the X41) but visible on the front face this time. An interesting feature that is neatly integrated.

For this NB24 project, CODE41 have partnered with Concepto in Switzerland to design and produce this beautiful movement exclusively for CODE41. Assembly is performed entirely by hand in Switzerland.

CODE41 are fully transparent on the origin of the components, hence the TTO ("Total Transparency on Origin") marking. They intentionally do not make use of the "Swiss Made" marking which they consider to be misleading (and rightly so). In effect, the NB24 Chronograph would clearly qualify as being "Swiss Made" although the case, dial and strap are not of Swiss origin. CODE41 should not be blamed for being fully transparent and honest in that respect.

EDIT: At this hour 701 pieces have already been preordered (there are currently 199 remaining pieces out of the second batch of 500 pieces), i.e. approx. 3,2 million CHF (3,6 million USD) of preorders. Not a bad start.

Good day Mr Bailly, nice of you to stop by. I hereby claim my $10 book token and free Code41 watch.

On second thoughts, you can keep the watch.

MyNameIsNigel · Feb 16, 2021

Trev
And are you associated with CODE41 or Concepto? What is your relation to these companies? Some transparency would be nice.

That's quite the first post.

Woops
Good day Mr Bailly, nice of you to stop by. I hereby claim my $10 book token and free Code41 watch.

On second thoughts, you can keep the watch.

LOL. I am not in any way connected to CODE41, Concepto Watch Factory or Nigel Bailly 😁

I just happen to be a recent fan of this brand and preordered one NB24.

And, for the sake of total transparency, my nickname is simply a reference to Nigel Mansell who I happened to be a fan as well when I was a kid and still followed F1 back in the 80s/90s. I am too old anyway to race at the 24h of Le Mans 😉

And honestly, you do not need to be connected to CODE41, their partners or ambassadors to love what they are doing 😉

DSotW · Feb 17, 2021

M MyNameIsNigel
LOL. I am not in any way connected to CODE41, Concepto Watch Factory or Nigel Bailly 😁

I just happen to be a recent fan of this brand and preordered one NB24.

And, for the sake of total transparency, my nickname is simply a reference to Nigel Mansell who I happened to be a fan as well when I was a kid and still followed F1 back in the 80s/90s. I am too old anyway to race at the 24h of Le Mans 😉

And honestly, you do not need to be connected to CODE41, their partners or ambassadors to love what they are doing 😉

What are the odds of someone:

1. Signing-up to a forum dedicated to Omega watches (where an Admin has to approve the sign-up)

2. Specifically to post their first post (not creating an intro) as a response to a thread about a watch brand that is one other than the one the forum is dedicated to (Code 41)

3. And that first and only post is signing the praises of the brand

3. After someone (me) left a comment that was less than flattering?

Those odds are less than zero.

That is, unless it's part of a marketing campaign. As someone who works in Digital Marketing, I can tell you this wreaks of "forum infiltration", a well known technique to spread brand awareness, get "traction" and influence public opinion about a Brand. Google Alerts is a great way to track who is talking about your Brand on the internet as it sends you an email any time it spyders a site and finds a particular search term defined by the user.

vintage hab · Feb 17, 2021

JetLinks
I've seen this brand pop up and they seem to have some pretty cool looking watches, especially the latest chronograph that was released for sale today, named the NB24, which has the oscillating weight on the front face.

Has anyone purchased one of their previous models and if so, how do you like it?

I looked at several of their models about a year ago (and continue to get their Google ads 😡). They look cool initially, but I wonder how they will age, i.e. if I would continue to like the look. But ultimately the price is too high and I don't believe, given they're a niche brand, that their value will hold. I don't buy watches as an investment, but I do like to switch things up, so that's a consideration. For the money, you can get an Omega or other luxury brand.

VickMacky · Feb 17, 2021

Looks like something that would be on the counter of my local gas station 🤮😟

MyNameIsNigel · Feb 17, 2021

DSotW
What are the odds of someone:

1. Signing-up to a forum dedicated to Omega watches (where an Admin has to approve the sign-up)

2. Specifically to post their first post (not creating an intro) as a response to a thread about a watch brand that is one other than the one the forum is dedicated to (Code 41)

3. And that first and only post is signing the praises of the brand

3. After someone (me) left a comment that was less than flattering?

Those odds are less than zero.

That is, unless it's part of a marketing campaign. As someone who works in Digital Marketing, I can tell you this wreaks of "forum infiltration", a well known technique to spread brand awareness, get "traction" and influence public opinion about a Brand. Google Alerts is a great way to track who is talking about your Brand on the internet as it sends you an email any time it spyders a site and finds a particular search term defined by the user.

Then I am bad at this I guess 😁

I was simply giving my honest subjective and possibly passionate opinion about the brand and this particular chronograph in response to the original post in this thread, which happens to be part of the "Open discussion" thread.

I do not mind people criticizing this particular brand or any other brand as matter of fact. I own Omega, Tag Heuer, Tissot, Longines, Oris and Alpina watches and have quite an eclectic taste for watches myself. Adding the NB24 to my collection will only make this collection even more diverse and disparate.

cvalue13 · Feb 17, 2021

VickMacky
Looks like something that would be on the counter of my local gas station 🤮😟

Can’t unsee

DSotW
That is, unless it's part of a marketing campaign.

A rather heavy-handed wack at it they took, if so; the only thing more strange would be an uninterested “fan” coming up with that copy

High Hope · Feb 17, 2021

Well this is interesting. Would the real Nigel stand up please? 🙄

Transitus · Feb 17, 2021

Hideous looking things. The design and marketing - hipsters trying too hard.

Archer · Feb 17, 2021

Interesting cost structure...

wouter van wijk · Feb 17, 2021

the name reminds me of the ap thing. some day that will be a collectible piece btw since nobody wants it. code41 next please

Transitus · Feb 17, 2021

Archer
Interesting cost structure...

Are you referring to the fact that they don't seem to be able to add up?

DSotW · Feb 17, 2021

High Hope
Well this is interesting. Would the real Nigel stand up please? 🙄

😁😁😁😁

DSotW · Feb 17, 2021

Archer
Interesting cost structure...

So, CHF 2'000 profit on each watch... Not bad...

Archer · Feb 17, 2021

Transitus
Are you referring to the fact that they don't seem to be able to add up?

Well, that is a thing, but that really wasn't my point.

Bulk of the cost is the outsourced movement. But I am somewhat surprised at the remainder of the costs...in particular the Swiss costs being as low as they are, given the wages in Switzerland.

Assembly costs of $43 per watch? I am assuming this would include mounting of the dial, hands, casing, and final regulation. That is extremely cheap for that work...

Bugbait · Feb 17, 2021

The problem I have with most niche/micro watch brands is confidence in their long term support and service. When you're spending under £1000 then it's probably less of a concern. When it's over that, or many multiples of it then it's certainly a big factor, for me anyway. I'm not sure how much the movement deviates from the original Valjoux 7750 it's based on but I'm guessing it could be significant. How many watchmakers can service these with access to parts? Do I have to ship it back to them for a service?

Part of any premium I'm willing to pay for a luxury watch factors in the confidence in long term support and service (i.e. replacement parts) from the manufacturer.