Anybody know how this is done?

[eugeneandresson]

That bezel...I think I want one...no blasphemy intended. Lovely watch too.

edit : if you do not want to share such info publicly, feel free to PM me.

Edited: Mar 6, 2020

 

[vienna]

This is a beautiful watch😀

Kind regards Max

 

[machamp6650]

Pulsations bezel is a new / service one right? So almost certain it's all been artificially done...

Having said that I'd be interested in knowing how it's done. Great looking result - could be a lucrative market in that!

 

[eugeneandresson]

machamp6650

Pulsations bezel is a new / service one right? So almost certain it's all been artificially done...

Having said that I'd be interested in knowing how it's done. Great looking result - could be a lucrative market in that!

yes, it’s modern/service, and yes I suspect it’s not natural, and yes, would either love to know how or love to know who, hence the creation of this thread 👍

 

[machamp6650]

eugeneandresson

would either love to know how or love to know who, hence the creation of this thread 👍

Sorry mate I meant to have said I'm *also* interested in how it's done 😉

Sure it looks incredible, but is it worth the 56k markup?

 

[SpeedyPhill]

I once got that Brown color bezel by reflection as I posed with a huge Gibeon meteorite found in Namibia... Iron meteorite so not a good idea 😉
And as we know, any Speedmasters linked to meteorites often go in the 50K prices...
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[ahsposo]

It was exposed to something like this:

 

[Seaborg]

I think we could achieve this coloration with a chemical process. I've no specific idea of how to do it by the way. I've also personally observed that (alpha) radiations can generate severe brown discoloration...

 

[Cellestino]

The look is very attractive. However I would query, if this has been created artificially, why would the artisan elect not to refill the luminous paint within the minute hand?

 

[eugeneandresson]

I know nobody owns any thread, but I would like to keep this ones track on the bezel. Just to be clear: I am not insinuating that this is in any way a prepared watch (so there was most likely no ‘artisan’ involved any more than I would be an artisan if I put such a bezel on my own watch), and if it were, then the lume hole would have been filled, but I assume everyone who sees this thinks the same as I : that there is 0 chance that bezel came with that watch as the period correct one is different. This is the third modern pulsometer bezel I have seen in a short while with exactly the same color and uniformity, hence my question. It’s tastefully done and looks great on this piece.

 

[neilfrancis]

The whole package looks amazing. I’d love to know more too. Do we think the dial has been ‘done’ too? Not a criticism, I’m admiring it... never seen one with shading quite like it. I also think that the lume in the hands has been done that way (or left that way) for its aesthetic value. Lovely tones all over the watch. I’d wear it. ‘Chapeau’ to the artist/builder.

 

[eugeneandresson]

My humble 2c opinion: To my eye that dial is flawless and untouched, and we have seen at least one other (edit : make that 2) 145.012 with the same dial behavior (but with some lume loss) in the last x months ...

Edited: Mar 6, 2020

 

[eugeneandresson]

time flies

Is this the same one in the "is this as good as it gets for a ew?" thread?

have fun
kfw

Nope. That’s the same one as in this thread (created about 14h earlier) 😉

 

[janice&fred]

eugeneandresson

My humble 2c opinion: To my eye that dial is flawless and untouched, and we have seen at least one other 145.012 with the same dial behavior (but with some lume loss) in the last x months (too lazy to find that thread)...

i'm not sure about flawless, at least in regards to the coloring consistency. it looks like the same type of coloring certain guys in HK were achieving by slow baking.

 

[eugeneandresson]

janice&fred

i'm not sure about flawless, at least in regards to the coloring consistency. it looks like the same type of coloring certain guys in HK were achieving by slow baking.

Apart from color (which despite speculative baking, I still find a beautiful flaw), by ‘flawless’ I meant no scratches/marks/specks/spots/etc/etc/etc on the dial.

All photos of baked ED White dials that look like this from Hong Kong welcome.If these guys were pumping them out, there must be a ton of images from sales listings etc etc.

 

[janice&fred]

eugeneandresson

Apart from color (which despite speculative baking, I still find a beautiful flaw), by ‘flawless’ I meant no scratches/marks/specks/spots/etc/etc/etc on the dial.

All photos of baked ED White dials that look like this from Hong Kong welcome.

I don't know about ed white dials in HK but there are some there as well as in the Philippines that have pretty much perfected the art of "tropicalizing" rolex dials.

 

[Foo2rama]

My guess is the dials legit. The bezel was made as it’s cheaper then a decent DON.

 

[eugeneandresson]

janice&fred

I don't know about ed white dials in HK but there are some there as well as in the Philippines that have pretty much perfected the art of "tropicalizing" rolex dials.

That I can believe. I just honestly have not seen many properly (read: not baked to ‘fakk’ dry looking and hideous) tropical EWs or 145.012s at all.

Now if anyone can help me with that bezel...😁

 

[watchlovr]

I don’t see any way of baking a dial to turn it brown, without affecting the white script at the same time.
Heard the stories, just stories till proven.
And I don’t know how the bezel is “browned”
Bleach is known to fade a bezel insert, but no brown that I’ve seen.

 

[harrymai86]

For someone willing to pay 56k I believe he needs to inspect the dial in person and makes the decision after that, well also he will need to hunt down a faded brownish DON to match the dial 😜😜