Any trick to de-casing a 2757?

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I thought I'd go ahead and try switching movements between my 2627 and my 2757 today. I watched all the videos I could find and the 2627 went great. I undid the case clamp and out it came. The 2757 on the other hand was still tight as a drum after stem and clamp removed. Can anyone please tell me what I missed?
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I thought I'd go ahead and try switching movements between my 2657 and my 2757 today. I watched all the videos I could find and the 2657 went great. I undid the case clamp and out it came. The 2757 on the other hand was still tight as a drum after stem and clamp removed. Can anyone please tell me what I missed?
A few years of training and a lot of experience. Last time I tried to do something similar to what you said, I totally horked it up and had to pay for the full service, because it was coming apart anyways.

Ain't no point when a watchmaker who knows what she's doing can do it right in mere minutes and for a not-huge amount of money.

Reminds me of working as an electronics technician at the university where I eventually earned my degree. Computer science professor tried to "fix" his PC. Totally horked it up. (Yes, I like that phrase!) Generally wasn't a good idea.

"A man's got to know is limitations."
 
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I can’t help you with your question, but why on earth would you try to swap these date and non-date movements?
 
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Can anyone please tell me what I missed?
Better tools

But to be real, without actually being able to see what the "hang up" is, I have no real answer.
 
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I would bring it to a watchmaker if I was in your position. Beyond fun modding on a Seiko, I wouldn't go near taking a watch apart or tinkering with one in any way. Bring it to someone who is qualified.
 
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I can’t help you with your question, but why on earth would you try to swap these date and non-date movements?
I've gone into it in another post but the cliff notes is: I bought a 14k (case/bracelet) 2657 with a TERRIBLE redial and missing stem/crown. To replace the dial I sourced a nice original dial in a well loved 2757. I'm not a purist and want a nice looking watch to wear with a suit a few times a year. The movement switch was a quick "test fit" to see what they would look like t in the opposing cases. The plan is to keep all parts together so if passed on new owner can reverse the process. The 2627 removal was 1 case clamp and would have been a stem removal both of which are very easy. I was under the impression the 2757 was the same process.
 
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A few years of training and a lot of experience. Last time I tried to do something similar to what you said, I totally horked it up and had to pay for the full service, because it was coming apart anyways.

Ain't no point when a watchmaker who knows what she's doing can do it right in mere minutes and for a not-huge amount of money.

Reminds me of working as an electronics technician at the university where I eventually earned my degree. Computer science professor tried to "fix" his PC. Totally horked it up. (Yes, I like that phrase!) Generally wasn't a good idea.

"A man's got to know is limitations."
If the process had included more than a caseback removal and 2 other screws I wouldn't have bothered. Watchmakers are few and far between here and those willing to even look at a bumper even fewer. I was quoted by one $95.00 to install a bracelet lock spring and screw in the retaining screw (using MY spring). If it had been even half that I'd not have batted a lash but $100 for 10 mins was a little steep for me as I work physically for a living.
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If the process had included more than a caseback removal and 2 other screws I wouldn't have bothered. Watchmakers are few and far between here and those willing to even look at a bumper even fewer. I was quoted by one $95.00 to install a bracelet lock spring and screw in the retaining screw (using MY spring). If it had been even half that I'd not have batted a lash but $100 for 10 mins was a little steep for me as I work physically for a living.
Restoration 1953 OMEGA seamaster automatic bumper cal.344 full serwice - Bing video
Damn! Guess you and your local postal service will be finding another watchmaker soon....
 
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You got it!!! I've been scouting. Any recommendations?
 
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You got it!!! I've been scouting. Any recommendations?
You can remove the crystal and hands. Use soft stuff to protect the dial then gently push it down (at the rim) and see what happens.
 
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I've gone into it in another post but the cliff notes is: I bought a 14k (case/bracelet) 2657 with a TERRIBLE redial and missing stem/crown. To replace the dial I sourced a nice original dial in a well loved 2757. I'm not a purist and want a nice looking watch to wear with a suit a few times a year. The movement switch was a quick "test fit" to see what they would look like t in the opposing cases. The plan is to keep all parts together so if passed on new owner can reverse the process. The 2627 removal was 1 case clamp and would have been a stem removal both of which are very easy. I was under the impression the 2757 was the same process.
I think I’m following now - all of your references to “2657” should actually be “2627”? That makes more sense, since they’re both date at 6 references.. vs 2657 which is a non date, sub second reference..
 
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I think I’m following now - all of your references to “2657” should actually be “2627”? That makes more sense, since they’re both date at 6 references.. vs 2657 which is a non date, sub second reference..
Oops!!! A mind is a terrible thing to lose!! Thanks I'll edit now! DUHHHH
 
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Dial probably a bees wing thickness too wide and a shade stuck. Pin opposite side of the case clamp.

Usually I use a screwdriver and gently try to lift movement out from the clamp side

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Thanks Don!!! less than a minute!! Now to get the other one out.
 
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Movement fits and looks great I think I'm just waiting on a new stem and crown to finalize the switch. One thing I can't figure out is why the stem and crown pictured won't seat properly even though they came out of this movement?
 
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You have to fit the movement pin exactly at the inner middle case cut out slot....
 
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I can't seem to get it any further while in the case. It seats fine when out of the case, when the new stem comes I'll try again and set the new crown accordingly.