Who knew El Monte, Arcadia, Artesia is the new Ukraine?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-OME...cb68a7e&pid=100574&rk=2&rkt=4&sd=172378348449Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

 

Maybe President Trump will talk Russia into invading them too.

 

Please educate me, what is so wrong with it?

 

I can't imagine anyone wanting to go through the trouble to fake that. It looks like genuine Omega 70s funk to me.

 

I posted that already!!

The inner bezel/ rehaut is wrong.

 

The Ukraine makes aberrations and hideous creations from parts that happen to fit despite them being from different decades (or even centuries). They take an Omega pocket watch movement, stuff it in some weird case, get a dial that fits and have it painted any way they feel will attract dipshit n00bs, and list it, often using shills.

This watch is made from all Omega parts, most of which might have came together originally, and all are from the same era. Actually, it looks like Foo2 is correct that the only thing wrong is the inner rotating bezel.

HUGE difference between this and a Ukraine Franken.

 

Looks like the hands need to be repainted.

 

Yes Sir. You are absolutely Spot On
The rehaut design of the ebay watch is wrongly depicted as a Pilot Mission Timer / EinsatZzeitMesser . I'll show the others an example Sinn EZM10

 

That's not a fake bezel - it is an Omega part to my knowledge. It's just not a Soccer Timer bezel for that model.

 

It wouldn't just be "Yachting" version Soccer Timer would it?

https://uhrforum.de/ich-bin-fertig-fuer-die-fussball-weltmeisterschaft-t177407

http://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=62043728

 

Jim, you might very well be correct - which would be embarrassing for several members in this thread.

 

I object Your Honour !
Not So Fast Jim....
Meganfox17 will not go down without a fight ! Or....
if i go down , i'm bringing you with me [emoji41] !

1 # Jim's website is in German so we need a native speaker here to understand what's actually being said.

2 # The ebay ad said Vintage Omega Chronograph Soccer Time not Yachtmaster or America Cup ETNZ Yachting ! Here is a genuine example

3# if Jim's arguments hold water then why is another picture on the same website has a contradicting picture ?

 

http://www.regatta-yachttimers.com/brands/omega/

This is a lead....

 

Got it Sir ....But....

Omega Seamaster Chronograph Soccer Timer ST 145.019 Cal 861 from 1971 didnt have that rotating bezel as advertised on ebay

 

1040



861

 

Soccer timers were usually 861s. Actually, those 145.xxx were ALL manual wind chronographs because that's what the reference number meant.....

1 = man's watch
4 = manual wind chronograph
5 = water resistant

Seeing that Omega's only manual wind chronograph caliber was the 861 at that time (1969 when the Soccer Timer variants were first released), it's the only possibility. There were some earlier C-case 145.xxx with the 321 inside, but they were 1965 - 1968 models.

 

@JimLnOz , The ebay ad Ref ST 145. 019 said Soccer Timer & the true example is the one belowThe one shown here is a different version of Ref 145.019 Seamaster Yacht

 

Yes, it's the same case reference, just another variation (because of that specific bezel). That's the confusion - how many slightly different variants there are of the 145.019 which are official Omega watches.

 

Thank You Sir @ulackfocus . So the different variants of Ref 145.019 means that i've been spared the Squirrel's rod , forum shame & Absolute Total Humiliation [emoji13]

 

Oh, stop.

I only chimed in to begin with because it's a late 60's / early 70's C-case and I've owned around a dozen. Handled probably over a hundred. The only two I recall specifics about were the 18k gold Seamaster caliber 321 and stainless Seamaster Chronostop.