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Another Connie (551/14381 61 SC) for your assessment

  1. Adziu May 29, 2016

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    Hi All,

    I have found a nice listing on Omega Constellation Cal. 551, ref. 14381 61 SC. What do you think about it?
    I particularly wanted to find out what you think about the dial.
    I like the fact that the Seller did not overpolish the bezel - overall he seems to be really trustworthy so I actually look forward to the purchase. Thanks!

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  2. JohnSteed May 29, 2016

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    Dial seems ok .... But ... Having been through a few Connies myself I'd prefer to see some (more) stars on the caseback.
     
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  3. Fritz genuflects before the mighty quartzophobe May 29, 2016

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    I see "T"s on the dial, but no lume.... also the gold seems to extend off the lugs onto the case, as if the whole case was plated but the plate was polished off the body up to the lugs........suspicious stuff

    never mind that polished to death back..... although the movement looks decent, it looks like its had a long hard life, unless its cheap I'd walk
     
  4. christhomas May 29, 2016

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    I think you and I must have different views on polishing because to me the bezel and lugs have been fairly heavily worn/polished.

    Also I believe that The T's should not appear on a 1961 watch
     
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  5. Adziu May 29, 2016

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    I guess I got excited about the fact that it's not that polished compared to other listings... ;)
    Thanks for all the remarks. According to Omega site, this ref no. should refer to a pie-pan dial so this already caught my eye... And you're right about the stars ! Any other comments are welcome.
     
  6. Geordie May 29, 2016

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    Would there have been lume on the hands ?
     
  7. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member May 29, 2016

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    Remember the pictures on the Omega vintage site are not indicative of a specified dial, merely an example of one of the dials that may have be available

    The watch was polished beyond death.
    Dial is refinished.
     
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  8. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months May 29, 2016

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    who has a pic of a nice crisp one for the OP's education?
     
  9. Adziu May 29, 2016

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    Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
     
  10. cristos71 May 29, 2016

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    This watch IMHO is a no go. Very overpolished, especially the bezel and case back. Wrong crown too.

    The 14381 ref had both dome and piepan dials, if you found your info on the Omega site there are many discrepancies there.

    The OP´s watch has lume in both the hands and markers.

    Here is a 14381 that I used to own, this one is solid gold with onyx markers. The bezel and case, although not perfect, are in much better shape and I would be looking for a watch in this kind of condition if I was in the market for a 14381 which are not so difficult to find.

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  11. Fritz genuflects before the mighty quartzophobe May 29, 2016

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    I would assume there would be lume on the hands and the dial.
     
  12. cimo May 29, 2016

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    It looks like there is lume on both the hands and dial but it may or may not be original. The watch appears to have undergone some treatment or another and it's possible they did a vintage style relume. Regardless the case back especially is a little too worn down for my tastes.
     
  13. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers May 29, 2016

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    I can't see a redial from the fonts but agree the Ts are a bit odd for that period
    (The lume is there)

    EDIT: Oops - I've just looked at my own -fonts on OP watch have no serifs -nicely done though for a redial

    should always trust the masters....

    Agree with the rest has been said - you can definitely find better - just need patience

    As for the @Christos watch - it is stunning

    my gold faced version
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  14. Fost May 29, 2016

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    Not that polished?
    More polished than that would be a see through case back ...
     
  15. ConElPueblo May 29, 2016

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    Here's mine, gold-capped as well:

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    It's NOT on my wrist, but on L'American, as it hasn't yet cleared customs ::rant:


    I'll be honest and admit that apart from the "T's" on the dial, I can't really see anything wrong with it :oops:
     
  16. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member May 29, 2016

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    Look at the minute markers, then look at the minutes on yours, Peemcgee's and Cristos71
     
  17. ConElPueblo May 29, 2016

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    Not sure what you mean? I know that the markers are on mine have onyx inlay and that the one in the OP are luminescent - I was referring to "T SWISS MADE T" being out of place on a 1961 watch as mentioned a few times earlier.
     
  18. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member May 29, 2016

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    No, those are hour markers not minute. Look at the minute markers (black dashes)
     
  19. ConElPueblo May 29, 2016

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    Minute markers, gotcha :D
    They are slightly longer/varying thickness? I don't think I'd pick up on that, especially if I hadn't seen close-up shots.

    As no-one has posted a lumed dial, here's one I googled my way to:

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  20. Adziu May 29, 2016

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    That's been educative.... now I'm sure I will look for your advice before I make my mind on buying any vintage Omega whatsoever ;)
    And thanks for reference pictures, now I see how terrible the overpolish on caseback actually is.