Below is lot 229 from Christie's "Rare Watches and American Icons" auction. To my eyes, the sub-dials look rather unsightly but I have not examined many other CarCousals. Here is the information: http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/...6037&sid=68764637-1534-4c1b-858d-2a46d192b6ce Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

How can that not be a redial? It must be a redial. Surely.

What do others think?

 

agree.

 

I like "CarCousel." These threads offer some insight into a UniCartoultre or a Jaegevetier:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/opi...al-285-lecoultre-cartier-and-universal.15000/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/rare-compax-model-chrono-made-for-cartier.13836/

 

It looks like two pieces of wet newspaper stuck together.

 

So ugly it has to be legit?

 

You mean this is the real deal?

 

That dial is a joke

 

Another 'nice' one Sold by Sothebys so it must be legit https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auc...ecoultre-reference-7090-retailed-by-cartier-a
Serials are close

 

Never resolved ... I’d vote

 

How long has Ray Charles been working at Sothebys?

 

What is really special about this example is the "screw-down case back" that was designed to look exactly like a snap-on case back.

 

I'm not feeling the dial, even if original its pretty ugly ?

 

The dials are intriguingly similar but it is IMHO impossible they ever remotely would have had a chance to pass Cartier quality control. Given the close serial and being the same reference I assume they are of the same batch. My conclusion is that this may have been a batch which was originally sold by Cartier but that by some kind of weird coincedence they were both redialled by the same, not overly talented, party.

 

Here you go: https://omegaforums.net/threads/opi...al-285-lecoultre-cartier-and-universal.15000/

So we have:
750.287
750.295
750.315

All (poor) redials but also all 3 Cartier.

 

And 269: https://watchcharts.com/listing/519...egister-model-285-chronograph-wristwatch-172m

 

The German tank number approach suggests a total production of 75. Sounds sensible.

 

And another. Unfortunately no serial: https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2010/important-watches-ge1004/lot.181.html
Best dial so far.

 

Best dial but worst logo.