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Another Balaclava: 1930s Longines

  1. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Mar 14, 2017

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    According to Patrick Linder's book, the 12.91 was introduced in 1906. The version shown below differs from my example as it features a separate, fourth wheel cock. Mine has a central bridge like the one on the 17.25, shown below. The 12.91 is not commonly found in watches from the mid-1930s, or later, but I think that my piece just pre-dates the introduction of the central-seconds version of the 12.68Z (i.e. the cal. 12.68N) so it was thus employed.
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    @Warthog Great piece you've got there. And quite the provenance. Agreed about 30s design.
     
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  2. Rman Mar 14, 2017

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  3. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Mar 14, 2017

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    It looks to be like it jumped out and is being pushed toward centre by the inner pin, hard to tell and we will probably never know.
     
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  4. Warthog Mar 14, 2017

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    Many thanks for the book page, DD; nice deduction on the timing of 12.68Z intro, too. Love your watch.
     
  5. Rumar89 Aug 9, 2017

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    I picked up one fairly recently with the same dial, although the case is a style I haven't seen on one of these before. Invoiced in June of 1936 to France @Syrte. Neat little things, small at 30mm, but rather charming dials. At the end of the day, I'm not sure these early ones are for me though.

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  6. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Aug 9, 2017

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    I like it, saw two other same models on sale in the past couple year.
    I like their dial design (and the case too).
     
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  7. Alruts Mar 3, 2021

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    Reviving an oldthread here, hope it's ok. Stumbled over this little charmer last week.According to Longines a Ref 3496, Cal 12.68Z invoiced to the company Terrasse in Sweden August 15th 1935. The logo is faintly visible, don't know if faded or a cleaning attempt. Leaning towards fading but... Movement looks very clean, gaining less than a minute a day. Don't know anything about this model, all info will be appreciated.

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  8. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Mar 3, 2021

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    Lovely indeed - I think Longines told you all there is to know about it. :thumbsup:
     
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  9. Radiumpassion Mar 3, 2021

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    Ok @Syrte I gave you a shot;)

    Dibs!!!
     
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  10. Alruts Mar 3, 2021

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    Haha,don't worry, I already promised you first if I decide to pass it on :)
     
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  11. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Mar 3, 2021

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    You are too Kind— I did contemplate it but figured I could not call dibs on everything ;)
     
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  12. imfagent449 Mar 3, 2021

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    Wow - I just discovered this thread. I love these designs.
     
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  13. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Mar 3, 2021

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    As stated, Longines has provided most of the pertinent information on this watch. I will just add that the movement is a lovely example of an early caliber 12.68Z. Below is a comparison of a slightly later example, with its two prominent case screws, and your early example with just one case screw. I am not certain about what prompted this shift but the earlier examples always look cleaner, to me.

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  14. BlueHands Sep 3, 2021

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    This a wonderful 1930s thread and I want to contribute this 1938 ref. 3496 in 14 K. Inside ticks a 27.0 caliber. It has also small 30mm but looks great on the wrist. Beautiful with the applied dial and one of the nicest cases.
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  15. Warthog Sep 3, 2021

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    Beautiful case indeed; do you happen to know the maker(hammer mark #)? Never seen this dial design before, I believe, with its seemingly applied or embossed sector rings encompassing the hours, except in a 1936 catalog as ref. 3696 which could be a printed dial in a certainly different case than yours. And I like the colors of the dial as well. Enjoy!
     
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  16. BlueHands Sep 4, 2021

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    I enjoy for sure! It's case maker 108, should be Maurice Challandes in La Chaux-de-Fonds.
     
  17. Warthog Sep 18, 2021

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    Thanks for your case maker info. I did find another dial with embossed numbers and circles around them like yours; it's on the Carese Co. of Japan web site under Men's Watches at the bottom of the 2nd. page with a black(galvanized?) dial, SS case and gold hands/numbers. I would include pics if I could....
     
  18. Perdurabo Sep 19, 2021

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    I have this little guy here. A bund strap makes its 32mm look a little larger.

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  19. BlueHands Sep 19, 2021

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    Here it is:
    https://www.antiquewatch-carese.com/mens-watch/LONGINES/carese9578.html
    The dial is like mine, just another case reference. Very nice, beside this there are some other interesting time-only watches. The cases were polished of course but I can't spot any redials on the first sight. Never heard of the dealer before.
     
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  20. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Sep 19, 2021

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    This is no « calatrava », or baclava, but to me it’s « yummy » all the same.
     
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