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  1. John R Smith Aug 4, 2014

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    1946 2374-15.jpg

    After the long hunt for my Centenary 2500 JUB, I was left somewhat flat. Life seemed to have no purpose, and the grey days passed by without colour or excitement. After all, once you have tracked down and obtained a grail like the Centenary, where do you go from there? Well, one answer of course might be another Centenary, but there was no way that the finances at Smith Towers were going to stretch so far.

    It was an older thread by Mike which gave me the inspiration for a new quest. He had posted pictures of two very nice examples of Omega’s first-ever production automatic watch, housed in a stainless steel case reference 2374 and powered by the 30.10 ‘bumper’ movement, later known as calibre 330 and the progenitor of all subsequent Omega half-rotor automatics. This cheered me up, as I did need a steel-cased watch to wear without fuss and worry, but one that was also historically interesting and not “yet another Seamaster” (yes, I do love ‘em but I already have two, which is enough). The 2374 might fit the bill, and as we shall see it certainly has some intriguing period design features.

    So the search began. The first problem was that most of the examples for sale had very poor dials, or had obviously been redialled (as is so often the case with these ‘40s and ‘50s Omegas). Finding one in good original condition seemed very difficult, especially since steel-cased watches are rarely as well cared for as gold ones. The other problem was that when I did track down a half-way decent example, the vendors were asking crazy money. Here in Europe it seems quite usual for them to be priced at over £1,000 GBP ($1,690 USD). This seems silly when I can pick up a perfectly nice ‘50s steel Seamaster in the UK for half that. Eventually I tracked a 2374 down from an eBay seller in the USA who seems to specialise in estate sales. He was also asking silly money, but although the pictures were poor I could see that this watch had my absolute favourite dial from the period. So I made a cheeky offer of just over half his asking price, to my surprise he counter-offered just slightly more and the deal was done. Of course I still had to pay the UK VAT at 20% when it got here, which always hurts, but nonetheless when it arrived on Wednesday last, very well packed and ticking away happily, the cost was quickly forgotten.

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    Since it arrived I have of course given the old girl a once-over and a clean-up, but it already had a new crystal so that little job was done. As you can see, this version of the 2374 has leaf hands (not lumed) which I have always liked and they make a nice contrast to the dauphine hands of the rest of my collection. But the real attraction for me was the dial and its mirrored numbers with their very distinctive figure designs, in particular the “2”. I have been looking for a nice example of these numbers for ages. The configuration is the 12-2-4-6-8-10 layout which also appeals to me. Does anyone know if this style of numbers has a name?

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    The sub-dial for the second hand has a little bit of a guilloché pattern, and the silver hour batons are applied. I’m not at all sure how the dial and hands have been finished, because there is no tarnish anywhere and as you can see they are in remarkable condition. Rhodium plating, perhaps? The crown is plain with no omega symbol, so I am assuming for the moment that it is a later replacement – however, I see that Mike’s examples look very similar so perhaps it might be correct at this date (1946)? Some guidance on this would be welcomed.

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    On this, the opposite side to the crown, you can see that we have some rather nice, swoopy, pierced lugs. You will also notice that, despite a few honourable dings and scars, the case is pretty sharp and shows no sign of ever having been polished. The main point of interest, however, is that there is no surrounding bezel and the dial side of the case is solid. At the rear, just to be really different, there is in fact a bezel whose task it is to hold the case back on.

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    You can see the rear bezel rather more clearly here. The case back is a push fit into the case, but not very tight, and then the bezel holds it firmly in place. Why all this complexity was thought necessary (or desirable) I am not at all sure. The brushed finish on the back may well be original (my 2445 of the period had the same) and is marred by just one scratch. Damn.

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    Here is the back removed from the case and in its two parts. The bezel is very thin and light and needs careful handling. Getting it all apart is not too difficult, but to reassemble the back you really do need a case press. I found my press with a 36mm die worked just fine – remember to pull the crown out to the setting position when you do this!

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    The inside of the case back has some rather nice perlage and the reference 2374/5, but no case-maker’s mark. The “PATENT +” presumably refers to the rear bezel fixing system . . .

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    And so to the movement, calibre 30.10 RA PC AM 17p (330), serial number 10963829, which dates it to 1946. To my surprise and relief, this is in lovely cosmetic condition, not quite as nice as my Centenary, but close. The copper plating is in perfect order, with nothing missing or discoloured, which is really important on the rotor especially, as it is such a big part of the ‘look’. All we can criticise, really, is that one of the banking stop springs is wrong (too large). This is no problem, as I have the correct spares in stock. The strange spring clip sticking up between the stop springs is found only on the first iteration 30.10 and 28.10 movements, and its function is to bear against the case back and hold the movement in place. There is no conventional case clamp screw as on the later versions. So once you have the back off, all you have to do is to remove the crown and stem and the movement and dial will pop right out. On this example of mine, you will notice that “Fabriqué en Suisse” is engraved on the rotor bridge, something I have not encountered before. This makes me wonder if this watch was originally delivered to France or Belgium. An archive extract from Omega might solve the puzzle, perhaps.

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    Finally, here they are side by side –the 2374 and my Centenary. They are probably pretty much contemporary, as I have an extract for the Centenary and it is dated December 1947. You can see quite clearly that the Omega design team was working up a very distinctive house style at the time, and the two dials have a great deal in common. I reckon the 2374 makes rather a good steel companion for the all-gold Jubilee special, what do you think?
     
  2. CdnWatchDoc Aug 4, 2014

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    What a gorgeous watch! Congrats many times over!! Your patience has been rewarded nicely. I love your pics as well, esp the side by side comparison. Thanks for sharing your good fortune!
     
  3. Dablitzer Aug 4, 2014

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    What do I think? - I think you have found two stunning Omegas, and they go hand in hand nicely, the Steel one is really very beautiful btw!! Congrats John! :)
     
  4. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Aug 4, 2014

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    I love a good write-up/read...and of course a beautiful watch. Excellent on both counts.
     
  5. Pahawi Aug 4, 2014

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    Very nice - congrats John :thumbsup:

    Now, get a new goal, or the grey days starts again :)
     
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  6. ChrisN Aug 4, 2014

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    Beautiful watch and a very interesting write up. Thanks.
    Chris
     
  7. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Aug 4, 2014

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    Stunning watch, I really love the leaf hands on these early bumpers.
     
  8. Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Aug 4, 2014

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    Beautiful!

    That watch will match nicely with your oncoming colorless and grey days.

    ::yawn::
     
  9. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Aug 4, 2014

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    Great find!
     
  10. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Aug 4, 2014

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    Nothing official, but I call these "Swiss" numerals. Reminds me of the font used on the date wheels of the early Seamaster Calendars.

    Longines used a similar caseback system in the 1950's. Their version used a screw-in on the rear bezel with notches that fit a standard case wrench. Easier to handle with layman's tools.

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    Lovely watch, wear in the good health.
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  11. Hijak Aug 4, 2014

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    Congratulations on a beautiful find John...both are stunning!::love::
     
  12. John R Smith Aug 4, 2014

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    Folks, many thanks for all your comments and kind words. I'm really glad that you liked the watch.

    Now then, any thoughts about that crown? If it is incorrect, what would the correct type be?
     
  13. Mothra Aug 4, 2014

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    I think I might prefer the 2374 to the centenary. Great find!
     
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  14. Northernman Lemaniac Aug 4, 2014

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    Hi John!
    A very inspirational find indeed! Lovely watch(es)! ::love::
    The condition of the dial is simply unbelievable! I am sure not even 1 in 10.000 looks that good!

    As far as I have been told Omega did not start with the signed crowns before late 1940's?
    The shape of the case resembles my 2584 / 2480-1 cal 351 from 1949. At this time they had shifted to a conventional screw down back but I can see where they got their inspiration from:
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  15. John R Smith Aug 4, 2014

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    Thanks Northernman, that's a nice watch. As you say, the case shape is much the same as mine but with a screw back.

    I really don't know quite how my dial and hands have survived so well. At first I was very suspicious of their apparent newness, but the condition of the rest of the watch supports the view that they are original. I have examined the dial closely through a loupe, and all the text and printing matches that on my Centenary precisely for style and precision.

    I think that what has somehow happened with both this 2374 and my Centenary is that they both came from estate sales, and I am in effect the second owner. Perhaps the original owner was very careful, and then they died and the watch just got left in a drawer and was forgotten until their spouse also passed on. Who knows. They both have this strange quality of newness which took me by surprise when I unpacked the box, but which I somehow latched onto even from a poor photograph. My other watches are pretty good, but by comparison they have "been around the block" a few times, and have obviously passed through many hands and traders.
     
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  16. Northernman Lemaniac Aug 4, 2014

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    Like mine;)!

    My only concern with such beauties like yours is that I can almost never make myself wear them in fright of inflicting damage! :oops: They are simply too nice for me. But they would look fantastic in some kind of display!
     
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  17. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Aug 4, 2014

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    Hey! I've got one of these, and I never realized it was this reference - mislabeled in my records. Thanks for making me look again, Mr Smith. One of my favorite Omegas as well!

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  18. John R Smith Aug 5, 2014

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    Lou, that is a really nice example in very good condition. Yours has a slightly different (lumed hands and figures) dial variant. And with the original Asprey box into the bargain!
     
  19. citizenrich Metal Mixer! Aug 5, 2014

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    The "2's" look like Kenny from South Park ! Haha...tehehehe!

    good on you for being patient and finding what I must imagine is one of the better / cleaner examples of this reference on planet earth.

    which part of the USA does she hail from? Might give a clue as to the how and why this watch is so pristine.
     
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  20. John R Smith Aug 5, 2014

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    Rich, the watch was shipped to me from California.