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  1. TheGreatKat Jul 26, 2022

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    All four of vintage speedmasters at last AQ auction did not reach reserve price. I guess it shows where we are with a market. Condition and originality are more important than ever. And it's not so much about a price as they were not estimateted high.
    To compare I enclose all 4 watches pictures and a 2998 which was sold at Sothebys for $12,500 3 years ago. Really bad condition and ugly 2998. Price was quite low but still I guess it would not sell nowadays. What do you think?

    BTW Ultraman looks fine for me. Serial number correct, orange hand looks legit. But no extract is no go I guess, right?
     
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  2. Dash1 Jul 26, 2022

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    All of them are tired examples. No extract for the ultraman, but it’s not attractive anyway.
    I’m sure you’re right, the 2998 wouldn’t sell today for $12500.
     
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  3. TheGreatKat Jul 26, 2022

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    And some more pictures of Ultraman to judge:
     
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  4. TheGreatKat Jul 26, 2022

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    Exactly! They're all tired ones. But I can imagine they would have been sold two years ago.
     
  5. Eve Jul 26, 2022

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    All watches in question (except Ultraman), had a starting bid EUR 10.000 (add 30% buyer premium). So a starting price of least13k.
    The EdWhite (Lot 60) and 105.012 (Lot 61) look very tired. Although i would have liked to see the EdWhite in person, it might look not too bad life.

    The 105.012 (Lot 62) has wrong bezel and Serial number out of range.

    I am not surprised these didnt sell.
     
  6. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Jul 26, 2022

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    I think I know who the previous owner was...

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    (some bloke who shagged the life out of them ::facepalm2::)
     
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  7. Hzgm Jul 26, 2022

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    I am no expert but the auction is local to me and I have never seen so many lots passed. Check out the Daytonas… ambitious estimates (or from a few months ago…) in a weak market?
     
  8. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Jul 27, 2022

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    You guys are wrong ;-)
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