Airking dial authentication please

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JwRosenthal

·Aug 19, 2019

Hey Guys,

Thinking of changing out the dial on my 14000 Airking as I find the silver on silver near impossible to see in lower light (aging eyes) and selling mine and hunting down a black one is far more hassle than just swapping the dial out.
Wondering if you guys could verify is this is authentic or not. Seller has tons of positive feedback so that’s a good start.

Dead Link/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/383093146922

 

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wsfarrell

·Aug 19, 2019

Looks good.

 

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Uniqez

·Aug 19, 2019

Is the middle of the coronet a bit off or it is an optical illusion?

 

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JwRosenthal

·Aug 19, 2019

Uniqez

Is the middle of the coronet a bit off or it is an optical illusion?

This is why I ask here!! Keener eyes than I. I have read in other threads here that they are hand applied and sometimes can be a hair off- higher or lower but not sure about crooked.
Anyone?

 

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S.H.

·Aug 19, 2019

A bigger version of this picture could be useful :


To repaint the dial, the indexes would have to be removed, and put back again. Impossible to do without leaving marks. Here, I'm not sure.

Also, not 100% sure about the lume plots.

 

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jimmyjay

·Aug 19, 2019

Uniqez

Is the middle of the coronet a bit off or it is an optical illusion?

I held the screen 30cm away, shrunk the image to equal the diameter of the dial and couldn’t see the flaw.

 

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Uniqez

·Aug 19, 2019

jimmyjay

I held the screen 30cm away, shrunk the image to equal the diameter of the dial and couldn’t see the flaw.

What about now?

 

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89-0

·Aug 19, 2019

Something similar came up in another thread recently https://omegaforums.net/threads/is-it-just-me-can-you-spot-it-too.93118/

 

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JwRosenthal

·Aug 19, 2019

Here are a few comparison images from two other dials, one currently listed (but not nearly as clean) and another finished auction-both state genuine Rolex. The finished back on the above is what has me scratching my head as it’s not like the others.
I would love it to be the real deal as it’s so clean and it comes with hands, but obviously I wouldn’t have posted it here if I weren’t sure.

 

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JwRosenthal

·Aug 19, 2019

And one other thing I am noticing, the coronet on the one in question seems very flat whereas the other two seem more rounded.
But that may be me just trying to see problems now.

 

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jimmyjay

·Aug 19, 2019

Uniqez

What about now?

 

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ICONO

·Aug 19, 2019

The ‘T Swiss Made T’ aligns differently, on the proffered dial

Personally, I would not endorse that dial as authentic

 

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wsfarrell

·Aug 19, 2019

Still looks good to me. I think any differences between dial 1 vs. 2 and 3 above are attributable to different dial makers--and dial 1 seems of much higher quality. These lume pips are really hard to reproduce, and they're absolutely perfect on dial 1. Same with the painted indices--they're often irregularly spaced on redials; perfect on dial 1. Hands also appear to be original and pristine. And, as noted, seller has great feedback and offers 30-day returns. No-brainer.

 

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ICONO

·Aug 19, 2019

This discussion is like trying to get, two light meters to agree…

You have to choose one, or the other…and live with that decision

The one consistency I have learned, collecting Rolex…is that the smallest difference / variation, from the norm…is usually a big deal

 

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JwRosenthal

·Aug 19, 2019

So, looking closely again- there seems to also be differences in the text- the one I linked above has serifs on the letters and the ones from the other auctions and from the screen shot from Bob’s I am posting below don’t....hmmm

Bob’s screenshot

eBay dial

 

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JwRosenthal

·Aug 19, 2019

wsfarrell

Still looks good to me. I think any differences between dial 1 vs. 2 and 3 above are attributable to different dial makers--and dial 1 seems of much higher quality. These lume pips are really hard to reproduce, and they're absolutely perfect on dial 1. Same with the painted indices--they're often irregularly spaced on redials; perfect on dial 1. Hands also appear to be original and pristine. And, as noted, seller has great feedback and offers 30-day returns. No-brainer.

And I agree with you, it’s seemingly perfect. If it’s a fake it’s an excellent one- the sunburst on the dial is excellent and the lume pips and minute track are perfect. This is a tough one as I don’t want a fake, and shipping it back to AU is a pain despite the 30 day return. I know to some it’s only $400 so doesn’t seem like much of a deal but it’s the principle of doing my due diligence.

 

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JwRosenthal

·Aug 19, 2019

ICONO

This discussion is like trying to get, two light meters to agree…

You have to choose one, or the other…and live with that decision

The one consistency I have learned, collecting Rolex…is that the smallest difference / variation, from the norm…is usually a big deal

And I totally get the light meter analogy, but that’s assuming we are talking about two genuine dials with slightly different variations- which does happen as has been discussed many times. If it’s just a different version then I’m fine- but a fake is a fake.

 

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JwRosenthal

·Aug 19, 2019

Not trying to split hairs here-the 14000 had a long run so I’m sure there were variations. Just want someone who has has taken these things apart to see the serif text and the back and say- that’s totally a fake, or yeah, that’s the real deal.