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Advise needed. Patina or water damage??

  1. Castle4444 Dec 11, 2018

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    Evening all,
    Just after a little advise on this GMT. Love the look of the patina colour but do you think it’s natural or due to water damage/ ingres? Can’t be sure if that cheesy dirt around the case back or rust?? Annoyingly no movement pictures :mad:
    Thanks in advance gentlemen


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  2. rincondeltiempo Dec 11, 2018

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    Patina is indeed water damage. That water damage could be either humidity or just water getting into the case. In this case, I would say that this watch has seen better times, that patina doesn't seem to be naturally made, as well as the broken gmt hand arrow.

    Maybe that cheesy dirt you find is just dirt and has nothing to do with water. Nevertheless I think a good ultrasonic clean is needed.
    Cheers
     
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  3. Meme-Dweller Dec 11, 2018

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    Is that rust everywhere or wrist cheese?
     
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  4. ATWG Dec 11, 2018

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    That looks like wrist cheese and not rust. It’s teally hard to develop rust on SS.

    As for the dial, that’s does look like it has been exposed to moisture. A picture of the movement would be nexessary to confirm. Otherwise, the case and dial are quite attractive, just need to do a bit more diligence.
     
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  5. omegastar Dec 12, 2018

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    Isn’t the GMT hand supposed to be under the hour hand ?
     
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  6. Tempus Dec 12, 2018

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    Gunk...not rust on SS case. Case looks nice and sharp.
     
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  7. Castle4444 Dec 12, 2018

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    Then Watch I’m told is running but they can’t provide movement pics unfortunately.
     
  8. trackpad Dec 12, 2018

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    Double check for any new tariffs on wrist cheese, …depending on your location.
     
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  9. trackpad Dec 12, 2018

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    On a more serious note, this is a gorgeous dial IMO. I would want to see better photos and with the time set to 10:10! Also a good way to help confirm they still have the watch. Movement photos are also a must here.

    The hands need some work but all of this has to be put into context by the asking price.

    @rincondeltiempo don’t mean to be pedantic but I’m not sure patina is water damage... I thought it was just oxidation caused by contact with the air over time. Not sure it matters, not trolling, just curious.

    And I agree with you on that cleaning! Needs a deep clean, stat. But if the dial is intact, what a lovely piece it could be. Again...all goes back to the asking price.
     
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  10. leefowler Dec 12, 2018

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    It is a 16750 not a 1675.
     
  11. trackpad Dec 12, 2018

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    Learning something new here almost everytime I check in.
     
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  12. leefowler Dec 12, 2018

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    The hand stack is different on the 1675.
     
  13. Castle4444 Dec 12, 2018

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    Unfortunately I was out bid!! By a long shot!!!!! £15000 including fees. :eek:
     
  14. ATWG Dec 12, 2018

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    WOW! Pass....
     
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  15. trackpad Dec 12, 2018

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    Yeah I'm with @ATWG on this one.
     
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  16. jaguar11 Dec 12, 2018

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    Crikey!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  17. Civic4982 Dec 14, 2018

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    15000£ ack!!!!

    Well sounds like I missed the boat on 16750s

    I’d be glad to have lost out on that auction.