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  1. Castle4444 Nov 1, 2018

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    Evening Gentlemen
    I’m just after a little advise on this speedy 2998-4 I may have the opportunity to acquire.
    What are people’s thoughts on the originality of the lume and hands?? Or indeed any other red flags.
    I will try and get a few more pictures tomorrow as appreciate it’s a little tough to tell with these.


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  2. GIGI321 Nov 1, 2018

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    looks like a relume to me....but I'm far from being an expert
     
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  3. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Nov 1, 2018

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    Definitely take more pics showing the lume -- and closer up, please! The 9:00 marker lume looks a little porky but I would not be willing to bet one way or the other based that one dial photo.
     
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  4. kov Trüffelschwein. Nov 1, 2018

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    I think the lume looks greenish because of that horrible green carpet :cautious:

    Ask for more photos, on a neutral background ;)
     
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  5. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Nov 1, 2018

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    Agree with Kov . Ive never seen a 2998 with that greenish colour, but I also haven't seen All the 2998s im the world.

    Get pics of the 6 on the ends too...
     
  6. bags1971 Nov 1, 2018

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    6 end links are single slot oddboy
     
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  7. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Nov 1, 2018

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    Oooo, missed that! Cool!
     
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  8. bags1971 Nov 1, 2018

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    another pic
     
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  9. bags1971 Nov 1, 2018

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    another
     
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  10. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Nov 1, 2018

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    That's better, pale yellow I have seen before.
     
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  11. MCC Nov 1, 2018

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    What about that chrono hand ? I didn't think the 2998-4 had spear hands?
     
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  12. GIGI321 Nov 1, 2018

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    Still looking kinda green’ish to me ...: ::confused2::
     
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  13. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Nov 1, 2018

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    Per MWO .....Pretty darned good...Later crown.. Spear and straight chrono hand seem to pop around in these references. SN 17.762..... to 18.419.....
     
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  14. jimmyd13 Nov 1, 2018

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    Incorrect chrono hand; one pusher also incorrect; the lume I am totally undecided on. I don't think it's been relumed, instead it looks like it has a lot of loss. However, the photos are poor and you'd have to get really good, in focus, pictures without the glare from the glass. The -4 came with both baton and alpha hands so they're correct but I prefer the look of the alphas.

    Anyway, it looks like any "faults" are what you would expect to see from normal wear, tear and service. All comes down to price but, please, get some detailed photos.
     
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  15. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Nov 1, 2018

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    Just for edification ... which pusher?
     
  16. jimmyd13 Nov 1, 2018

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    Oh god, now I'm doubting myself. I thought the lower one was the original small pusher and the top is a later medium one ... and now that you've asked me, I'm not sure if they're not both the same size.
     
  17. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Nov 1, 2018

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    I’m not seeing a problem .. that’s why I asked ..agree more pics needed.
     
  18. Davidt Nov 1, 2018

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    Are you sure? I though baton hand weren't seen until the 105.002.
     
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  19. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Nov 1, 2018

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    2998-5 I think
    Edit. Oops. I thought we’re discussing the tear drop chrono hand.
     
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  20. jimmyd13 Nov 1, 2018

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    Had this discussion with another member on another thread ... maybe 18 months ago? Mine had alphas, his had baton; mine had one lume insert, his another ... we discussed them at length and ended up at the point both were correct.
     
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