Advise Needed, Omega Seachero Heirloom info.

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sokard

·Jun 8, 2020

Dear Ωmega friends,

I have been into watchmaking and watch collecting for the last four years. The first thing I did when I started was to find all my family's watches and try to fix them. One of those is my grandfather's Omega Seamaster which I inherited from him. I have checked and found some info on this watch but I would appreciate it if you have more on this.
The case reference is 2990-1 and it runs off course on cal. 267 like the famous Ranchero.
My main concern lies on the dial. I have noticed that all the other Seacheros out there have the Seamaster written under the OMEGA inscription.
I was planning to request an extract from Omega but in the case it is a redial they keep the money so I don't want to risk it.
Thank you i advance.

P.S. I have not yet overhauled the watch because I am still thinking how to handle the radium lume.

Edited: Jun 8, 2020

 

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sokard

·Jun 12, 2020

Any opinions?????

 

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padders

·Jun 12, 2020·Oooo subtitles!

Well that dial text isn't from the 1950s if that helps so not original to the watch. On that basis I doubt the lume is radium

 

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sokard

·Jun 12, 2020

padders

Well that logo and text isn't from the 1950s if that helps. On that basis I doubt relume is radium, but neither is it likely original to the watch.

Thank you for your reply!
Actually the watch was serviced back in 2004 when I inherited it. I was not aware at that time of the value of vintage watches and the lume in the hands was in very bad condition so I requested to the watchmaker to relume the hands. As for the lume on the markers this is 100% radium because I checked it in the Geiger counter.
When was that logo applied by Omega?
Because I think that the radium was replaced by tritium in around mid 60s.

 

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padders

·Jun 12, 2020·Oooo subtitles!

It’s not really the logo that is the issue, it’s the font in the word Omega. That sans serif style is more a 1970s onwards thing so it suggests either a replacement or repainted dial. Look closely at other examples, the text has small serifs and is subtly different

 

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sokard

·Jun 12, 2020

padders

It’s not really the logo that is the issue, it’s the font in the word Omega. That sans serif style is more a 1970s onwards thing so it suggests either a replacement or repainted dial. Look closely at other examples, the text has small serifs and is subtly different

Thank you for your help!
I will disassemble the watch and I will post some photos of the dial so we can see the truth!

 

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Shabbaz

·Jun 12, 2020

Strange dial. Omega font looks like a later service dial. But it also could be refinished. Anyway, I never saw it before.

 

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sokard

·Mar 20, 2021

I managed to dissasembe the watch today in order to overhaul it and took some closer photos of the dial and its back.
The maker appears to be "HUGUENIN" and from a closer looks this is not a redial, in my opinion.

I would appreciate it if someone else with more experience on the subject could help me.

 

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gatorcpa

·Mar 20, 2021·ΩF InvestiGator

Could be a factory replacement (service) dial. Logo is still not right for a late 1950's watch.

These things happened.
gatorcpa

 

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sokard

·Mar 20, 2021

gatorcpa

Could be a factory replacement (service) dial. Logo is still not right for a late 1950's watch.

These things happened.
gatorcpa

In this case, would I be able to receive an 'extract from the archives' or it will be considered as a 'fake'?

 

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gatorcpa

·Mar 20, 2021·ΩF InvestiGator

sokard

In this case, would I be able to receive an 'extract from the archives' or it will be considered as a 'fake'?

Omega will give you the extract based on the case and movement. They will not opine on the dial.
gatorcpa

 

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Dan S

·Mar 20, 2021

Later OMEGA font on a radium dial. 😕 It really seems like that text must have been reprinted. Strange. Anyway, I don't think it will stop you from getting an Extract.

 

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sokard

·Mar 21, 2021

Thank you for your replies.
I will request an extract and let you know how it goes.