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  1. Gb2cv Mar 19, 2018

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    Looking at this watch as a possible acquisition - bit pricey? £1500gbp
    14k gold
    wondering about case - it's described as 35mm to me dial looks ok after following previous advices given on how to spot redials but maybe I am missing something?
    no pics of movement but info is Swiss Movement 33163671 Cal 1002

    Thanks in advance for input.

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  2. chipsotoole Mar 19, 2018

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    It looks ok to me. others will know more. I like what appears to be the original sunburst finish on the case ..very typical of the time period. Overall it appears to be in very good nick (shame about the scratch!) but 1550 GBP? Whoa!!
     
  3. ConElPueblo Mar 19, 2018

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    Yep, quite pricey. It shouldn't be a cal. 1002, but a 1001, since 1002 isn't a chronometer-rated movement... Also, I'd say that the dial looks refinished.
     
  4. Gb2cv Mar 19, 2018

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    hmm maybe that's why no photo of the movement? Got to love these ebay sellers
     
  5. chipsotoole Mar 19, 2018

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    can you point out the signs where you see possible refinishing please? I thought the indices looked fine...
     
  6. ConElPueblo Mar 19, 2018

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    I admit to being unsure as these are somewhat away from my area of "expertise", but the position of "Swiss Made" above the indices are IMO pretty much always a warning sign.

    That said, these aren't the most documented pieces on the web, so it could well be a correct variant. The movement issue (and price) is enough of a turn-off for me to consider it more in-depth. The 10XXs are rather prone to wear in certain areas so the 1002/1001 issue could be due to replaced parts taken from a non-chronometer movement.
     
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  7. Noddyman Mar 19, 2018

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    I am not familiar with these either but agree with ConElPueblo the dial fonts just looks off and not what you would expect from Omega.
     
  8. tdn-dk Mar 19, 2018

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    I vote for redone, the font, and the minute index seems not to be alligned with the raised index.
     
  9. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Mar 19, 2018

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    In the last picture, the shiny bevel on the case looks like the thickness varies. Indicates a redone case to me. Also looks like it’s missing a bezel or something. The way the crystal protrudes from the case doesn’t look kosher.
     
  10. ConElPueblo Mar 19, 2018

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    This reference doesn't have a bezel...
     
  11. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Mar 19, 2018

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    I’m not saying it did, only that it looks like it’s missing one. Like the MKII Speedmasters that get refinished too heavily and have a protruding crystal. Doesn’t look right.
     
  12. ConElPueblo Mar 19, 2018

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    You are saying it looks "wrong", that the case may have been "redone" and that the way it protudes "doesn't look kosher". It seems to me you are indicating that work has been done on the watch and that the bezel has been removed (you know - since it is "missing")? Or are you commenting on the overall look of the reference?
     
  13. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Mar 19, 2018

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    Looking at old catalogs, this appears to me as the closest to the OP pictures (1972). The bezel looks like it was ground away. Even the lugs are shorter. There are so many differences with the pictures above (dial, case, movement) I'd steer away.

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  14. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Mar 19, 2018

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    Those are C cases
    I think the OPs watch is a later ‘son of C case’
    (Auto correct typed ‘sin of C case’ -perhaps that’s a better description ;))
     
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  15. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Mar 19, 2018

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    According to Ranfft the 1001 movement was produced 1968-1973. Did the son-of-C exist during those years?
     
  16. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Mar 19, 2018

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    I’ll be honest - I don’t know the reference.
    Way beyond my date-scope (or desirability)
    Found a couple of similar ones on the web.
    If the last 1001 movts were 73 then the watch could be 74/75
    But as above it has a1002 so not correct anyway.
     
  17. ConElPueblo Mar 19, 2018

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    From the OP we know that it is a 1001 movement (obviously 1002 is incorrect) - try googling "Omega Constellation cal 1001"... The reference can be found that way; took me about 20 seconds.

    The 168.0017 - and all of the above pictured - use the 55X family of movements.
     
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  18. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Mar 19, 2018

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    I may have found the reference: BA 168.0053

    Like @ConElPueblo mentioned, the Swiss Made is below the index. Also the case has sharper features and the "bezel" is clearly visible.


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  19. ConElPueblo Mar 19, 2018

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    That photo is massively misleading, however. The 168.053 does not have a bezel. Omega must have messed up their archives... Have a look through the photos on Google Images for proof.
     
  20. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Mar 19, 2018

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    Ok, another possibility is the BA 168.0056... :D

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