Well I have been a little distracted as of late, and my radar has been patchy. However by some miracle I managed to not only spot this before Mr P gave me a heads up, (thanks!), but managed to actually win it. So join me in the anticipation.... So what did I get for my $2600 ? I don't know yet - it may not even come, as the seller has a massive 8 feedback's. Still credit card and Paypal might just save me if it doesn't arrive. So what I think I got, is a re-cased, redialed, re-handed 2998. Or a re-movemented 145.022. (more likely!) 17m serial just right for a 2998, with the correct period bridges. A T SWISS T painted logo dial - it will be interesting to see if it is a 321 dial or an 861 jammed in. The DO90 bezel looks pretty good. They seem to be fetching sky high prices at the moment, even in this condition. And those period hands will replace brand new service hands on a 145.022-69 Looks like $90 of new pushers? No banking on it, but could be. So, if it arrives, I think I have a use for all the parts. By the time I reach Chicago, it should be there.... Oh and the last thing, could that be a brown dial? I don't really think so, but I like to wonder....
Omega will not at the moment, but it does not mean information does not exist somewhere. For example they very recently found out information about those early models delivered to a specific country.
If it arrives I can't see how you could lose out here. A 321 with the early clutch bridge (correct name?), DoN which every man and his dog are looking for, along with a nice, period, case, hands, dial, pushers etc. The parts value alone must exceed the price paid.
Bugger. I was too cheap again. Only really looked at the bezel and 321 movement with the rest as 'bonuses'. Was thinking of making it a project with a display back and possibly go a bit wild with the dial and hands. Still not sure of how a 321 gets mashed into a 861 dial. Glad it was you that got it. Looking forward to see what you do. What's the Speedy count up to now?
This must be fairly easy for a watchmaker as there seems to be quite a few 321's that pop up on ebay with, printed logo, short indicies 861 dial.
Omega issued service dials of this design, with 321 feet. I have one right now on a 145.012 in service. I have to decide wether to keep it, as a period correct service dial, and quite rare, or return to original with a period corect AML dial.
Dial feet discussed here http://omegaforums.net/threads/dial-difference-between-145-012-and-145-022.6135/page-2#post-72595
The 861 feet are smaller than the 321 feet, so a 861 dial should fit right onto a 321 movement, although I've not done it to see if the 861 feet are long enough to be fully tight. You can also fit a 321 dial to a 861 movement if you narrow down the feet and their length - not really a major issue
Thanks, I didn't know that. I though even the service dials had the applied logo. Still, nice pick up!
At that price... you'll really not lose either way. Nothing ventured nothing gained... Well done I say.
Nice! The movement looks like a 17.7x1.xxx. That could be from a -2 or a -3. Nice DON and nice dial also. Love to see the rest of the s/n when you get it.
I was bidding on this one too and I have been in contact with the seller by phone for over a week. He is a legit seller but, new to ebay and owns a jewelry store. I bid $2000, I felt that it wasnt worth the time or the risk to bid more. It is a chocolate dial, but it is an 861 dial. The leather strap has no value, the case back is completely wrong. The movement is from 1960 and whether it belongs in a seamaster or speedmaster is anyones guess. Hands worth $100-200. I wanted the DON and was going to sell off the rest and hope for the best. At $2500 I was concerned I couldnt get out of it. Please post back when it arrives and update this thread.
I also caught this. What threw me was the seller had listed two 145.022's, one started at $1599.00 and the other at $1799.00 with no bids on them with only a few hours left. The listing picture looked identical for each one, but when you opened them up the one had the movement shot of the 17 mil movement. I didn't feel like gambling, and was wondering if anyone on here would catch the low serial number. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you Spacefruit! In this game....the more knowledge you accumulate, the less the risk is.
The problem I had was the case backs. I actually asked the question on this very forum about differences in cases to see if the case backs can be interchangeable on different years. Since the casebacks on both of his watches dated to mid 70's I figured they were wrong on both watches, certainly wrong for a 17 m movement from 1960. They were franken watches to start with and whoever bought them knew it was a parts play, to restore any of them back to original would not be cost effective.