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A redial, sadly, but very cool

  1. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 9, 2017

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  2. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 9, 2017

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    The watch is a "Hastings" model from 1952.

    http://www.vintagewatchresources.com/detail.php?watch_id=10

    Redial is at least close to original.

    If price stays at this level, it is a bargain for an 18K watch with fancy lugs.

    Seller's ridiculous descriptions make me nervous.

    Still, not bad buy for $400 or less.
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  3. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Feb 9, 2017

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    The work is dammed good
     
  4. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 9, 2017

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    You mean because the fancy lugs add more weight?
    Or because the design makes it more unusual?

    Edit/ add- is it just me, or is the watch now on auction exactly the one featured on the web site below? The subdial markers which are slightly off seem exactly the same as far as I can tell....
     
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  5. Lonestar insert Schwartz joke HERE Feb 9, 2017

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    Can the Longines WIS here school me on how you spotted the redial on this piece? Is it because it is "different" from the original, or because some of the redial job is clearly visible? I can't see anything "obvious" at first sight, but then again I know zero about the original... thanks guys and girls :)
     
  6. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 9, 2017

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    The indexes on the subdial are the definite givaway sign, as they're all over the place with no symetry. That shouldn't happen on an original dial of a top tier brand from that era-- at least not Longines.
    Another sure sign is the shape of the "S" in the "Longines" dial signature.

    I'm not a "WIS", I'm a WII ("watch-idiot-ignorant) though.
     
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  7. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Feb 9, 2017

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    Subdial inconsistency is always a dead giveaway for me. Still for someone looking for a daily wear watch, it's nice.
     
  8. Lonestar insert Schwartz joke HERE Feb 9, 2017

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    Thanks @Syrte - a bit of a challenge for me to spot the index postion inconsistencies on these pics. I need to train my eyes more it seems!

    edit: I get it now - sub-dial indices. Ha, for sure, yes :eek:. Kicking myself for making a fool of myself in public!
     
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  9. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Feb 9, 2017

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    Center your eye and then look for off center sub dial, odd spacing, gaps between printing and outer edge of the subdial. Then there is smudged or inconsistent weight, wrong fonts etc.
     
  10. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 9, 2017

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    You are all correct. I'll add that the "Swiss" is too high up on the dial.

    If you look at the link I posted earlier, there is a very small photo on the bottom of the page of a Hastings with an original dial.

    Can't reproduce or edit that picture here, but those with mobile phones should be able to blow it up in your screen.

    Despite all the flaws mentioned, still pretty good effort to duplicate the original dial.

    Value is based on estimated 18K melt plus a small premium for box and papers, movement and style.
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  11. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Feb 9, 2017

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    It's a very nice watch, despite the imperfections in the redial.
     
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  12. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 9, 2017

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    The photo at the bottom of the page you linked looks like the same redialed example. Is it just me?
     
  13. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 9, 2017

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    Look at the subdial. Not the same.

    But now you understand my comment that the redial is a very good one despite the small flaws.

    gatorcpa
     
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  14. Faz Feb 9, 2017

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    I would buy this watch simply for the virtue of it über cool case. I don't see that the dial detracts from the overall look of this particular watch. If it's to wear I say go. To add as part of a collection? Maybe not..
     
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  15. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 9, 2017

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    Totally agree on the "uber-cool"-ness.... I like it a lot (hence the post) but not planning on bidding so if anyone would like to, be my guest.
     
  16. argonbeam Feb 11, 2017

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    Not a ton of 18K American-cased Longines from this period, so that in and of itself is kind of nice. For an 18K rectangular watch with in-house movement, not a bad price, even with redial. A current JLC Reverso in 18K costs :eek:. I prefer original dials, even with some patina, but finding a nice original dial from this time period is near impossible. I own quite a few Longines from this era, most intended for the American market (with the LXW movement marking), and the casework on most of them is snapback without any real attempt at sealing from the elements, and the dials on most show some sign of moisture exposure, even if just mild forearm sweat over the years.
     
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  17. Dero13 4 watches. All set to the wrong time. Feb 11, 2017

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    I have purchased from this seller before and had no problems. Stinks its a redial though
     
  18. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Feb 11, 2017

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    Nintendo?....... ::rimshot::

    Sorry.... couldnt resist :p
     
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  19. corn18 Feb 11, 2017

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    This picture seems to make it easier to see the subdial inconsistencies.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 11, 2017

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    I was able to make a blow up of the Vintage Watch Resources example, which I believe to be original, for comparison.

    Capture.JPG

    Not the greatest picture, but you can see how close the redial is to the original.
    gatorcpa