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  1. cwindham Mar 23, 2018

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    i just purchased an 1171 Vintage bracelet with the trapezoid logo and at the same time purchased vintage endlinks. Stamps are different from my previous endlinks. We’re there 2 different stamps for vintage endlinks or are these NOS?
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  2. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 23, 2018

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    Where is the packaging? Omega made stamped and also newer etched.

    Be advised that 633 end links are also available through Bestfit. These of course are not OEM, but aftermarket.
     
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  3. nonuffinkbloke #1 Nigel Mansell Fan Mar 23, 2018

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    This is a nice subject for my 1000th post,:)... as I'm currently on the look out for a later Omega Speedmaster to fit onto my Dad's old 1171/633 bracelet.

    My Dad had this 1171/633, trapezoid logo, service bracelet fitted to his Omega Speedmaster Professional 105.012-65 in the early 1970's.
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    They look very similar to the ones in the top pair of your picture.

    Bit more on bracelets here as well: http://www.omega-addict.com/reviews/bracelets/
    The 1171 bracelet in this link has a square logo and (unless I'm mistaken) ::shy::... the 633 endlinks look similar to the other pair in your photograph.
     
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  4. ewand Apr 9, 2018

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    There are various sellers of 633 endlinks on Ebay that are alternately NOS or used... here's one example, with a tell-tale vertical crease at the lugs - it looks like OP @cwindham has the same ones in the lower pair, pictured above.

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    I have a 1171/633 with square Omega logo, so presumably mid-70s, and the end links on that are more like @cwindham's upper pair, ie the stamping looks a little crisper and there is no vertical crease.

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    Do we think the Ebay ones and the lower pair in the OP's post are genuine Omega items, or are they aftermarket?
     
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  5. Speedmasterfan88 Apr 9, 2018

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    I interesting topic. I only knew of the ones without the crease. Not sure if the ones with crease are genuine, but I wouldn’t discard this possibility.

    Here‘s a pic of mine, from a genuine (as far as I know) NOS 1171/633 bracelet, no crease.

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  6. ewand Apr 9, 2018

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    Looking in MWO, it's interesting that the various types of endlinks are visible in different eras, overlapping too. The bracelets themselves are discussed on pp197/198.

    Let's presume for the end-links there's:
    Type 1 - 633 stamped, facing bracelet, no crease, no notch
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    See MWO 2nd edition, pp309 (-74)
    I would suggest these are the earliest 633 end links as they seem to be the most commonly-pictured on watches from 69 on, and more owners here seem to have them.

    Type 2 - 633 stamped, facing bracelet, crease at lugs, no notch
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    See MWO 2nd ed, pp315 ( 1980s)
    I think the lugs look a little thinner, and the stamping looks a bit less crisp - which made me think they might have been repros but I am growing to believe they're genuine, maybe from the late 1171 bracelet era but before the 1171/1 appeared?

    Type 3 - 633 stamped, facing watch, no crease, notches on each side
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    I used to have a 1171/633 bracelet that I suspect came from the Far East, as it had a NovoLink fastening system, and it had the stamped, notched 633s, but I'm increasingly of the view that they are more modern (maybe up to late 1980s?)

    Type 3b - 633 etched, facing watch, no crease, notches on each side
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    MWO 2nd ed, pp 305 (-71, though it makes the point that the watch is fitted with a 1171/1/633 bracelet). The only thing that obviously differentiates from type 3a is that the 633 is laser etched rather than stamped... and when the "vintage" 1171 bracelet

    Type 4 - from https://omegaforums.net/threads/633-endlinks-stamped-not-etched.20775/
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    There's probably plenty of scope for these to be aftermarket, but according to https://omegaforums.net/threads/fro...ge-seamaster-and-speedmaster-bracelets.45883/, it's likely that the clasp was etched 1171/633 and the endlinks left blank
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    There are plenty of other dodgy and obviously aftermarket ones being sold online, like
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  7. VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Apr 9, 2018

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    To be fair, that last set is not claimed to be Omega at all.

    Tom
     
  8. ewand Apr 9, 2018

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    That's true, they're not being passed off as genuine Omega. But they're still a bit crap.
     
  9. VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Apr 9, 2018

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    Actually, I was surprised how well they fit my Seamaster 300 (experiment). Good base to build upon if that's what you want to do.

    Tom
     
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  10. hotsauz May 26, 2018

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    Thanks for sharing. I recently got a pair of the type 2 you listed. If it's referenced in the MWO, can we conclude that they are genuine Omega parts?
     
  11. kelev_ra Oct 24, 2018

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    Yes, these are genuine omega Parts i think from the 80s...!
    They came in a red and blue paper packaging.
     
  12. Stuie Oct 24, 2018

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