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  1. chiko7734 Jul 23, 2013

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    Ok, I found something yesterday going through someone's collection that I am going to try very hard to buy. He has a 33.3 chronograph with a telemetre scale around the outer edge. Ive looked at it with a loupe and its definitely an original dial. The case is huge! At least 39mm maybe bigger and in 18k yellow gold. The case also has twisted lugs and is in like new condition, not polished. Its running great and the dial is pretty much spotless except for a few very light marks. Unfortunately I didnt take any pics and I know it will be hard without them but what would be a fair price to pay for a watch like this. Its not actually for sale, but I think I can convince him to let it go, he isnt an omega guy, more of a patek guy ;). Thanks in advance for your advice!
     
  2. chiko7734 Jul 23, 2013

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    Update: the watch looks identical to the one in these pics. I think that its the same one that ive come accross. Does the dial look original?
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  3. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 23, 2013

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    Dial on the pictured watch looks original. Case looks like a South American and not a swiss case. If confirmed, that would make it much less desirable.
     
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  4. chiko7734 Jul 23, 2013

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    Here is the caseback and movement
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  5. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 23, 2013

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    Definitely not a swiss case.
     
  6. chiko7734 Jul 23, 2013

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    That doesnt bother me too much, how much is a fair price do you think?
     
  7. chiko7734 Jul 23, 2013

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    Also it may be rose gold
     
  8. chiko7734 Jul 23, 2013

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    And the watch in the pics is the one I am considering. It has the same mark between 4 and 5
     
  9. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 23, 2013

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    If it was purchased from Bob Maron, it didn't come cheap for sure. I would say $4000-5000 or so even if rose gold. Aside from the fact it isn't a swiss case, solid gold cases don't command a premium with the 33.3 chronographs - they may actually lower the value compared to the steel case watches. Also since it is a South American case, one can't be fully sure it is really 18k gold even if it is marked accordingly - lots of examples of South American cases being marked as solid gold when in fact it is not.
     
  10. ulackfocus Jul 23, 2013

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    As Mike said, the SA cases are base metal rings with built up 18ct gold around them so they aren't a true solid gold case. A few years back before gold went insane I had a couple of Longines 30L's from the late 50's / early 60's - one original Swiss, one SA recased 18ct. The Swiss had $450 in scrap, the SA had $150 in scrap.

    Nice lugs though - kind of like that special edition Philippino Centenary.
     
  11. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 23, 2013

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    It should be either Philippine Centenary or Filipino Centenary. ;)
     
  12. chiko7734 Jul 23, 2013

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    This is really a tough choice. The watch is incredibly beautiful, but I would have to trade my 320 for it and I want something desireable that will hold its value well over time. Maybe I should stick with the one I have
     
  13. chiko7734 Jul 23, 2013

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    Also for the sake of knowledge, how can you tell its not a Swiss case?
     
  14. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 23, 2013

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    By style - there is no 33.3 swiss case that looks like that.
    By markings of inner caseback - does not look like a swiss case (no hallmarks and does not have either the 4 digit case ref. number or the 7 digit reference number).
     
  15. ulackfocus Jul 23, 2013

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    Oooops. ::shy:: I should know better.
     
  16. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 23, 2013

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    No
     
  17. chiko7734 Jul 23, 2013

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    No?
     
  18. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 24, 2013

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    Don't do it
     
  19. ulackfocus Jul 24, 2013

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    Agreed - don't trade that caliber 320 for this non-Swiss cased 33.3 no matter what. I think you'll find many of us have some disdain for South American cases. UK or US made cases are fine, just worth a little less.
     
  20. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 24, 2013

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    Yes , this could be very hard to get rid of in the future. But then again you're not the type of guy to resell a watch :rolleyes: