Is it normal that this case seems so... "un-omega" and why no obvious case reference? what is this watches reference? if indeed it has one.. is it part of the case number? why trying any plausible combination will omegas stupidly difficult to use database not recognise it?

 

first you have to understand how the Omega data base works: you have to know the ref.# - then you can look up the details in case the reference is available in the DB (not all ref. by far are shown).

This particular watch (as most of the early Omegas) does not have a ref.# in the case back, only the case serial number, and no - the ref# is not part of the case seriall# .

The only way to get to know the ref# is to apply for an extract from the Omega museum - or you have already the same watch for comparison in your friend´s collection or on the net...

 

I don't know enough to tell you much about the watch, but I believe that the serial number was stamped in the case back up to a certain time - forties? - when they started with the reference.

Hopefully a master will be along soon to educate both of us.

Edit: and mac_omega posted as I was typing!

 

stupid omega... but there seems to be an odd intermediate period that watches both DID and DID NOT have reference numbers? our 2077-1 dates 1939 and 9534405 would put it at around the same era no? according to chuck database.. 1939-1944? so even later than the 2077...

why so awkward omega why! (and let's not start on bloody american market omegas...)

 

It is not awkward at all - it is due to hstorical changes during time...

This relates to SS watches only:
first they started with case serial## then switched to ref# in the case back.
There might be some transition watches which show both the case serial and the ref# but this is not common at all.

It is different with gold cased watches:
Started with case serial## only like the SS versions but later they always had both, the serial# and ref# in the case back.

 

Very interesting discussion gents.
And, dibs as I really dig this watch!

@mac_omega, I was wondering about this because I have a stainless steel issued 30T2SC from 1942 which bears a case serial number inside-- whereas other "air ministry" issued 30T2SC from the same era bear reference 2292 inside. I guess those 2292 are some of the non stainless variants of that watch?
Or would they be stainless?
Other similar issued watches are also cased in a dennison case.

 

I think the watches with ref# 2292 in the case back might be slightly younger - from a time when the switch had already happened - a difference of 1-2 years is enough to see these differences in case marking...

 

They are stupid because 80 years ago they didn't make it easy for you.
Here is the beginning of the path, with sweep second the ref. is 2220, with small second it might be 2219 or 2221 who knows.

 

The c. 1944-45 2220/2 in my avatar has the ref. number on the case and the case design is similar to yours. Unfortunately, I don't have a photo.

 

it looks like its really hard to be exact but my doubts over the case are alleviated anyway, the most similar i have found same serial 95xxx and has a reference 1219/3 it seems less have case references than do. and its a minefield of recasing!

This seems to be an uncommon case for the 30t2 most opting for the more standard snap backs rather than the two piece "fat" cases.. but hey ho looks like they were trial and erroring a VAST quantity of 30t2 cases over decades! i suppose a little like the 30t2 movement itself and its vast VAST variances..

 

hey there, I have the same questions as you. But I think you have a CK2122 watch.
By the way take a look at mine. https://omegaforums.net/threads/experts-a-little-help-with-my-30t2-please.106571/

 

First time I stumble on a dial similar to mine, so just wanted to put the two together in the same thread

Different case though.

 

DIBS

 

Those dials are similar to the one in my late 30s Naiad. The dial of my watch is signed "importee de suisse" and has central seconds. I've never seen a watch with the same dial as mine.
My watch doesn't have a reference number either, but a serial number for the case.

 

Noted

So that’s how the 6 looks

Lovely looking thing @DeltaRomeo!