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  1. MikiJ Likes songs about Purple spices Feb 14, 2017

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    Please excuse my ignorance if this has previously been discussed. Really, you would think that you would know by now just how little I really know ::screwloose::

    I believe that there were fewer 220 bezels produced than DON bezels. If that's true, then why don't we see these 220 bezels being offered at over inflated prices?
     
  2. Vicke Feb 14, 2017

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    Because there aren't that many watches for which a 220-bezel is correct?
     
  3. pitpro Likes the game. Feb 14, 2017

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    Right. And it's not correct on
    the more expensive Speedmasters.
    But there is value there for sure
     
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  4. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Feb 14, 2017

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    Yup, 200 bezel is only correct on a very narrow range of one specific reference whereas DON is suitable for about twenty (counting dated subreferneces) - inlcluding the earlier ones as pitpro says - so a lot more demand for the DON.
     
  5. MikiJ Likes songs about Purple spices Feb 14, 2017

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    Fair enough, but why aren't the correct models with 220 bezels worth as much or more than the more common models with DON bezels?
     
  6. tyrantlizardrex Feb 14, 2017

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    Rarity doesn't always match desirability - it's a cool quirk, but that doesn't mean that lots of people will be willing to pay for it (or even aware of it).
     
  7. ac106 Feb 14, 2017

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    Probably DON hysteria. Likely to be a 220 hysteria in the future as all the 321 are bought up and the correct 220 era watches come into the spotlight
     
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  8. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Feb 14, 2017

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    A bixbite (red emerald) is rarer than an emerald. It's even the same family of gemstone.

    However it is a fraction of the value.

    Value depends on availability as well as desirability.

    The 220 bezel is ultra rare, so not available, and only slightly desirable compared to a DO90.
     
  9. Davidt Feb 14, 2017

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    As already mentioned, it also relates to the value of the watches for which they are correct.

    A 145.022-69 with 220, is the same as the standard -69 pre-moon with DNN or DON. Short indices, painted logo, 861 movement, single step caseback. In short, it has much more in common with the less valuable 70's Speedmasters, than it does with the more valuable 60's ones.

    The only thing that differentiates it is the 220 mistake on the bezel, and Speedmaster collecting hasn't (yet) reached the fever where such a small difference on an otherwise 'common' model equates to a large value increase.

    I don't personally see the attraction. I wouldn't value a 220 anymore than a standard DNN -69, all things being equal.
     
  10. kidkimura Feb 14, 2017

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    EmeraldForums.net, here I come :)
     
  11. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 14, 2017

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    In that case, I'll trade you a (1) standard DNN for (1) 220. Deal??:D
     
  12. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Feb 14, 2017

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    Bixbite - from the Wah Wah Mountains in Utah. Only place its found, and in small sizes. A fine 5 carat red beryl (Bixbite) is probably one of the rarest gems in the world, (note the word "fine").

    I love it, but a name only a mother could love - and there is not enough production to warrant a full marketing attention of the big brands, and so it remains a connoisseurs stone.

    These are tiny:

    bix.jpg

    www.bixbite.com
     
  13. BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Feb 14, 2017

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    Now the question to this thread has been answerred, can I hijack it a little?

    What other bezels - besides the ominous DON - can be correct for a 105.012 and 145.012? I have seen pulsation and telemeter bezels, but no clue whether they can be correct.
     
  14. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Feb 14, 2017

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    Pulsation, telemeter, and decimal. They were all valid options for just about any reference.
     
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  15. BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Feb 14, 2017

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    But no way to tell if it's from the correct era, right?
     
  16. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Feb 14, 2017

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  17. BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Feb 14, 2017

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    Grazie, signor.
     
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  18. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Feb 14, 2017

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    While I think they are seen on that vintage, it is unlikely you have the correct vintage versions - unless you are lucky / smart to have found old original ones.

    I could be wrong here, as my information is hear say, but I believe these bezels were always an option.

    The differences in the telemetre and decimale bezels are small, but the pulsations bezel has a line around it on the vintage version: see here:
    1-PB300009.jpg
     
  19. BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Feb 14, 2017

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    I like the pulsation bezel!
     
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  20. hansmaulwurf Senior Snoopy Owner Feb 14, 2017

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    Do you think this combination exist a second time? Well i have a real doubt! WOW!!!