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Already offered a small discount at my AD. This is will be standard production model for years....discounts will be flowing within a year!!
So I'll wait 2022 to buy this one 馃榾

@Caliber561 Thank you for the wristshots!
 
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Already offered a small discount at my AD. This is will be standard production model for years....discounts will be flowing within a year!!

Caliber561's review convinced me, very well done and appreciated.
I contacted my AD and placed an order, the new Metas movement, thinner case and a bracelet I might actually be able to wear convinced me. Went with sapphire instead of Hesalite because I plan to wear it much more often and the exhibition back with the new movement was a must. Purchased a full Moonwatch package in 2018 from this AD, it's going to cost about $3100+tax to make the jump so apparently there's some decent retained value. Hopefully will take delivery within 30 days or so. FINALLY a Speedy that hacks!
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OP do you notice that the new watch has much sharper edges on the sides of the case and the lugs (super noticeable when examine the watch for the caseback side. The edges lack the finesse and slight rounding if the 1861 outgoing model.

I鈥檓 not sure I like the case finishing much.

-Freq

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "sharper edges on the sides of the case." I also don't really know what you mean by the "finesse and slight rounding of the 1861." Could you give an example of that?
 
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OP do you notice that the new watch has much sharper edges on the sides of the case and the lugs (super noticeable when examine the watch for the caseback side. The edges lack the finesse and slight rounding if the 1861 outgoing model.

I鈥檓 not sure I like the case finishing much.


-Freq
I compared the pictures and the case contour and shape/edges are virtually identical to my Speedmaster 38, which wears very comfortably, so, I'll just have to wait and see
 
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I鈥檓 comparing to the 1861 .005 outgoing hesalite 42mm reference vs the new hesalite moonwatch.

The difference is huge between the two in my examples (both unworn and in plastics).


-Freq
Well, I looked closely at both my new Speedmaster and the Speedyorite, and I think the perceived softness in the outgoing model may have to do with the bottom of the case being polished. Geometrically, the 2021's lower edge is beveled slightly, which I suspect is meant to ensure the case doesn't cut into one's wrist when the watch is worn tightly. That said, the way the lugs flare out more like the old models probably makes the lugs look sharper, especially as the tips come down to more defined points. Personally, one of my chief dislikes about the modern Speedmasters were that the case geometries had a profile that was clearly flattened out versus their vintage counterparts. The thin brushed sides reminded me of an overpolished vintage case, but that little nitpick has been done away with now. In any case, the sharper appearance of the 2021 suggests to me a higher-quality finishing process, as I personally know that it can be very hard to preserve sharp edges when processing a metal component that has to be polished. There's probably more to it than that, but in short, I still believe that the new case feels much more comfortable than the outgoing variant, case sharpness and all. I also feel it looks much better, more faithful to the unpolished 105.012s out there.

When I have some time this weekend, I'll try to set things up so I can capture some close-up comparison shots.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I had some time to pop off the bezel for this model, and the construction of the new bezels are completely new. Omega now uses a replaceable gasket (the grey thing) rather than a direct interference fit between the bezel and case.

I don't know why this change was implemented, but I suspect it probably improves the serviceability of the watch, as the old Speedmaster case did wear if the bezels were removed frequently. Although this could be addressed by a watchmaker sizing the bezel, as Archer has suggested in another thread, this probably makes the whole process easier via the replacement of the gasket. I also noticed that the bezel was much harder to take off, probably because of the gasket, so that may be another reason this change was made.

The aluminum insert can actually be popped out of the bezel quite easily, and snapped back in place like those on vintage Rolexes. To my knowledge, they were previously glued in place, or not removable at all, so this is an interesting change.

@cvalue13 It also seems that the crystal is slightly cantilevered, which may be a factor that affects the prominence of the milky ring, a topic that you have explored with a lot of depth.
 
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Thank you OP for the detailed post
Strongly considering the new 3861
 
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Personally I love the polished bracelet, but for those who are in two minds, or prefer the brushed look, simply reverse the bracelet. The inside links are exactly the same as the brushed bracelet and if you want it 100% brushed then just buy the brushed end pieces (much cheaper than a new bracelet). Thanks Omega for the quick change act - master stroke.

" @cvalue13 It also seems that the crystal is slightly cantilevered, which may be a factor that affects the prominence of the milky ring, a topic that you have explored with a lot of depth." I believe that Omega has used some kind of "black" coating to minimise the milky ring effect,
 
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For the black dial, I prefer the hesalite. I felt that sapphire did not have the depth of the dial that I see with hesalite. My sapphire sandwiches are the white one and snoopy.
 
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This review covers the 2021 Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Sapphire, focusing on wear, finishing, bracelet changes and whether it feels worth buying versus the hesalite version. If you are deciding between the two modern Moonwatch options, this thread answers the practical part first.

So, last Friday I had the opportunity to go to my local boutique and have a look at their first shipment of the new 2021 Speedmaster Professional Moonwatches. The boutique received 2 hesalite and 2 sapphire watches, all on the bracelet. I already own a number of Speedmasters, so I wasn't expecting much from the new release. The leaked photos left me feeling underwhelmed, and I only intended to feel out the new bracelet, and potentially order one. I wasn't at all expecting to walk out with a new watch.



The first thing that struck me was the dial. When I first got into Speedmasters, I started with vintage ones, but I didn't have the budget for a 321. This meant that I was looking for what I considered to be the next best thing: A 145.022. After reading through as much Speedmaster101 as I could, I found that I really liked how the step on the dial gives vintage Speedmasters much more depth and dimensionality. The way shadows would play with both the guilloche concentric circles and dial step would give vintage Speedmasters a dynamism that modern ones simply didn't have at the time. So, like many of you, I was excited when I found out the new 3861 would have a step dial.

The release photos made the step seem very soft, and the concentric circles would seem to disappear and reappear at random between pictures. But in person, the step is sharp, and the concentric circles, while extremely fine, are clearly visible without magnification.



The applied metal logo (AML) is also very nice. Many members here have noted that they would have preferred Omega use the vintage logo. This would've been really cool, but Omega is likely reserving that for their heritage editions. As this is the standard-issue, modern Speedmaster, it makes sense Omega would use its modern logo.


The AML is also surprisingly well-finished considering its size and complexity. Previous versions of the AML did not include the upturned legs of the Omega symbol. This AML has them, yet it isn't distorted or warped in any way despite how small those details are.

The dial is a very deep black. I was shocked to find out that it is actually a deeper black than even my vintage -71 Speedmaster.


To me, the paint on the previous generation's hands always appeared somewhat chunky. Under macro, it would look a bit like stucco or popcorn ceiling. That has been changed here, as the hands have been given a consistent coat of fine, matte white lacquer. This may be why some have said the 2021 Speedmaster's hands seem "sharper" than the last 1861 model.



Quick note: up close, the consistency of the dial lacquer is similar to the hands - a smooth matte. It reminds me of an oiled whetstone, or something similar.


The handset isn't the only thing that has been made sharper, though. Over the past few years, I think Omega has really improved the quality of their cases. The same is evident here, as the brushing on the sides of the lugs is consistent from edge to edge.


The "milky ring," while still present to a degree, is much less prominent than on previous-generation Speedmasters. It is domed, although it is still box-shaped. It also doesn't use the traditional high-dome profile of the hesalite Speedmasters.


I love like the "105.012" case profile Omega used with the new release. As you can see, it is more in line with that of vintage Speedmasters than the previous case bands of modern Speedmasters. I also just find its proportions really pleasing.

2021 vs 145.022-71


2021 vs Apollo-Soyuz "Speedyorite"


You can also see that Omega has removed the soft iron dust cover, and reduced the height of the caseback. This lets the watch sit lower on the wrist, and it feels much slimmer as a result.

Omega has also improved its tolerances with the new case. The end links feel secure, and the gaps between the case and crown/pushers have been minimized.

2021:

Speedyorite:

This improvement and the shape of the 105.012-style case band make it seem as though the crown is larger, but that doesn't seem to actually be the case.

The lug to lug was also reduced to 47mm from 48mm. With the fully articulating end links, it feels like the watch lost about 6-7mm in length. As someone with a small, 6.25" (~16cm) wrist, this new Speedmaster feels right at home on my wrist.


The bracelet is perhaps the biggest change to the Speedmaster, though. There are tons of good things to say about it:
  • The smaller, fully articulating links make the bracelet extremely comfortable.
  • The use of screws is standard now, but still nice to see.
  • The aforementioned fully articulating end links let the watch wear more true to size.
  • The oval links keep hair from being pulled and combined with the 20 to 15mm taper, the bracelet wears very light.
  • The adoption of the historical ref 1116/1479 style lets the Speedmaster shed the "Oyster-style" links that it had earlier while retaining the 5-link, even-polished style that it is now known for.
  • The polished links are slightly smaller than the brushed links, helping to keep them free of scratches.



The clasp is also quite nice, as the high relief logo mirrors the AML, and the cutout for it lines up with the center link. I like the vertical lines, as it reminds me of the art deco style.



With this update, I don't think the Speedmaster is just a strap monster anymore. The bracelet pulls no punches, and with a good quick-adjust, it would probably be one of the best in its class. Honestly, it's already so comfortable without a quick-adjust, I might not even bother switching out the clasp if Omega comes up with a new one.



At this point, I was already sold. The caseback sticker with the barcode hadn't even been removed yet, and I haven't even looked at the 3861 movement yet. Even so, I already knew I was going to walk out of the boutique with this watch.

I already own a hesalite Speedmaster, so for me, the clear choice was the sapphire. If this were my first Speedmaster, I would probably have still chosen the sapphire. In my opinion, if you want the hesalite crystal for originality/aesthetics, you may be better off getting a vintage 145.022 or 321. Depending on your criteria for consideration, it's may well be closer to what you may really be looking for.

In any case, if you can't already tell, I am thoroughly enjoying my new watch. I feel like Omega really came through with this update, giving us Speedmaster fans pretty much everything that we've wanted (within reason), all the while giving the utmost attention to the details. They really have done an excellent job, and I believe the 2021 Speedmaster is more than worthy of carrying on the torch of the Moonwatch line.

P.S. I would like to thank the San Diego Fashion Valley Omega Boutique for the excellent service and the Snoopy Strap + Deployant! The boutique staff are true watch enthusiasts and have helped me out with accessories and services despite not having yet made a large purchase from them yet. They're really upstanding people and I cannot recommend them enough.

Quick verdict:
  • Choose Sapphire if you want the display back and stronger scratch resistance
  • Choose Hesalite if you want the warmer vintage look and the more traditional Moonwatch feel
Hello,

Thanks a lot for the extensive analysis for 3861 versus its predecessors. As someone who has just recently enarmored with speedmasters (& watches in general) via 3861 hesalite, I never knew about previous models, and the level of details Omega must have worked out to improve not only movement and technical aspects but also wearabilities, which would not have been possible had they not listen to fans & users. I can see the lowered center of the caseback of the new modem, and resulting improvement of wearability.
 
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Hello,

Thanks a lot for the extensive analysis for 3861 versus its predecessors. As someone who has just recently enarmored with speedmasters (& watches in general) via 3861 hesalite, I never knew about previous models, and the level of details Omega must have worked out to improve not only movement and technical aspects but also wearabilities, which would not have been possible had they not listen to fans & users. I can see the lowered center of the caseback of the new modem, and resulting improvement of wearability.
Indeed, most of the watches I collect and keep tend to be vintage, but the new Speedmaster is one that has stuck around. Even after getting a vintage 321, I still keep the 3861 in rotation. It's a nice piece on its own merits.