20/18 alligator strap for moonwatch question

asongbip · Dec 18, 2018

So I came across a ref # 98000215 black alligator strap that I am thinking of purchasing. I am going to get a 18mm deployant ref# 94521813 for it.

Is this the right combo for my modern moonwatch? I know the boutique's carry a different ref # black alligator strap, is the 98000215 strap just an older gen? I want it to fit perfectly on the moonwatch so I am skeptical on purchasing the 98000215. Should I just buy the one from boutique or are they the same thing..?

Thanks in advance.

BTW, if anyone has a 94521813 and a 20/18mm black alligator for sale let me know, I'm looking to purchase both 😀

Archer · Dec 19, 2018

That 98000215 strap is not for a Speedmaster Pro...

alam · Dec 19, 2018

A asongbip
BTW, if anyone has a 94521813 and a 20/18mm black alligator for sale let me know, I'm looking to purchase both 😀

I suggest you contact @yinzerniner as he frequently brings deployant buckles and different styles of straps around here >>> market place...

watchstick_81 · Dec 19, 2018

Archer
That 98000215 strap is not for a Speedmaster Pro...

Yes it is, I have it on my Speedmaster Pro as well. But it's probably the older reference. Bought it in 2017.

watchstick_81 · Dec 19, 2018

And this is the Omega folding clasp reference.
Fits perfectly and sits very tight between the lugs.

alam · Dec 19, 2018

JVK_watches
Yes it is, I have it on my Speedmaster Pro as well. But it's probably the older reference. Bought it in 2017.

just curious here, where did you buy that one?

watchstick_81 · Dec 19, 2018

alam
just curious here, where did you buy that one?

Watch Obsession in the UK. They had a good deal on some authentic Omega straps back then (also Snoopy straps etc.). No such deals anymore unfortunately. It was brand new and I ordered the clasp at my Omega AD. There I had the WO strap checked and it was the same as the ones they had in stock. The label on the packaging is different from Omega so maybe JR was missing a set of alligator straps in 2017 ;-)

alam · Dec 19, 2018

JVK_watches
.. label on the packaging is different from Omega so maybe JR was missing a set of alligator straps in 2017 ;-)

precisely the reason I asked... wonder if these WO offerings are genuine OEM products... dunno

😕

I do enjoy mine on alligator shoes 😀

Archer · Dec 19, 2018

JVK_watches
Yes it is, I have it on my Speedmaster Pro as well. But it's probably the older reference. Bought it in 2017.

Well no, it isn't. Looking that strap up on the Omega Extranet, and checking what watches is used on does not bring up the Speedmaster Pro. It shows that the strap is used on a number of DeVille watches, and two Seedmaster automatics with the Cal. 3301, but not the Speedmaster Pro.

I'll add that the label on that package is most certainly not something that came from Omega, and very likely something added by the seller. I've ordered many Omega straps and quite honestly that is more than a bit off in my books.

alam · Dec 19, 2018

Archer
...but not the Speedmaster Pro...

...which brings the next question, what's the strap number Omega shows here? Omega shows two Speedmasters Pro with leather straps, I assume one comes with clasp, the other with tang buckle..

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watchstick_81 · Dec 19, 2018

alam
...which brings the next question, what's the strap number Omega shows here? Omega shows two Speedmasters Pro with leather straps, I assume one comes with clasp, the other with tang buckle..

.

One with hesallite crystal and closed caseback and the other sapphire crystal and display caseback.

watchstick_81 · Dec 19, 2018

Archer
Well no, it isn't. Looking that strap up on the Omega Extranet, and checking what watches is used on does not bring up the Speedmaster Pro. It shows that the strap is used on a number of DeVille watches, and two Seedmaster automatics with the Cal. 3301, but not the Speedmaster Pro.

I'll add that the label on that package is most certainly not something that came from Omega, and very likely something added by the seller. I've ordered many Omega straps and quite honestly that is more than a bit off in my books.

My apologies, I assumed it was the correct reference because it's exactly the same as the one on the Speedmaster Pro. And the boutique gave the topic starter the same reference. My AD ordered the ST1 and ST2 buckle while another AD complained it was not in the Omega system.

Anyway, just ask the OB to order the Speedmaster Pro alligator strap and you're safe.
I'm glad my Watch Obsession order was the right one.....

watchstick_81 · Dec 19, 2018

alam
precisely the reason I asked... wonder if these WO offerings are genuine OEM products... dunno

😕

I do enjoy mine on alligator shoes 😀

They are OEM products, but not sure where they got them. When I ordered it, it was out of stock afterwards. So might have been a limited batch

Archer · Dec 19, 2018

alam
...which brings the next question, what's the strap number Omega shows here?

Strap - 98000245

Buckle - 94521813

Archer · Dec 19, 2018

JVK_watches
I'm glad my Watch Obsession order was the right one.....

It may fit, but it's not the strap for that watch.

Archer · Dec 19, 2018

JVK_watches
They are OEM products, but not sure where they got them.

I don't know anything about the company you ordered from, but honestly I've got some questions about the strap you have. Going by the packaging, I'm not so sure I would say 100% it's an Omega strap.

watchstick_81 · Dec 19, 2018

Archer
I don't know anything about the company you ordered from, but honestly I've got some questions about the strap you have. Going by the packaging, I'm not so sure I would say 100% it's an Omega strap.

Well as I mentioned before they compared it at my AD and they were identical. Might be not the correct strap for the Speedmaster, but it's a perfect fit at the lugs and with the correct deployant clasp. So I wonder what the difference is between the 98000215 and 98000245. Both will work fine, maybe that's good to know.

ps: Or the label on the packaging is wrong. Looks not to be an official Omega product packaging indeed so could be anything. But the product is good. Not sure why I am trying to convince you guys haha.

yinzerniner · Dec 19, 2018

Archer
Well no, it isn't. Looking that strap up on the Omega Extranet, and checking what watches is used on does not bring up the Speedmaster Pro. It shows that the strap is used on a number of DeVille watches, and two Seedmaster automatics with the Cal. 3301, but not the Speedmaster Pro.

I'll add that the label on that package is most certainly not something that came from Omega, and very likely something added by the seller. I've ordered many Omega straps and quite honestly that is more than a bit off in my books.

So there's always the question of whether a strap "IS used on" a watch, and whether it "CAN BE used on" a watch.

The Speedy Pro as a factory option comes with a 98000008 straight lug strap and a 94521613 clasp. That is a semi-gloss black alligator 20/16 strap and a polished regular length 16mm clasp. This combo obviously gives the Speedy a more formal look with the large lug gap with the straight ends, and the traditional 4mm taper from lug to clasp is slimmer than more modern fitments.

While the 98000216 strap the OP mentioned isn't necessarily a factory option it's a very good choice for a sportier look. The rolled "semi-curved" ends fill up the lug gap a decent amount, and the 2mm taper to an 18mm clasp is more in line with modern aesthetics. Also, the 16mm clasp end Omega strap selection is severely lacking, while the 18mm clasp end selection is myriad.

As for Watchobssession, they're not and authorized reseller but they always sell authentic pieces. While the packaging might not match what comes directly from Omega in many ways it's actually nicer. The pic by @JVK_watches looks to be heat-sealed thick gauge vacuum packaging, while the Omega packaging for straps is usually just a very thin and narrow plastic sleeve with flimsy adhesive keeping it closed. OB's often then add their thin Omega-embossed cardboard envelope, but even that outer packaging is rather flimsy. It's good to see that they've included a strap kit for their online Nato purchases which adds a lot to the value equation with the good springbar tool, nice case and extra springbars, but they should really make these a standard add-on for all Boutique strap purchases, online or in-person.

yinzerniner · Dec 19, 2018

JVK_watches
Well as I mentioned before they compared it at my AD and they were identical. Might be not the correct strap for the Speedmaster, but it's a perfect fit at the lugs and with the correct deployant clasp. So I wonder what the difference is between the 98000215 and 98000245. Both will work fine, maybe that's good to know.

ps: Or the label on the packaging is wrong. Looks not to be an official Omega product packaging indeed so could be anything. But the product is good. Not sure why I am trying to convince you guys haha.

9800245 is a straight-lug end with black contrast stitching on the inside. Originally spec'd for the Planet Ocean, but it also can be included with the Speedy Pro. 98000215 is the semi-curved end with tan matching stitching on the inside.

Speedy2254 · Dec 19, 2018

Archer
Well no, it isn't. Looking that strap up on the Omega Extranet, and checking what watches is used on does not bring up the Speedmaster Pro. It shows that the strap is used on a number of DeVille watches, and two Seedmaster automatics with the Cal. 3301, but not the Speedmaster Pro.

I'll add that the label on that package is most certainly not something that came from Omega, and very likely something added by the seller. I've ordered many Omega straps and quite honestly that is more than a bit off in my books.

I asked in an AD about the leather & deployant combo. I can't recall the part number but she told me the OEM leather for a Speedmaster is 20/16, not 20/18.

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