Both have original piepan date dials (different styles though) and different cases.
The pieces you show us are always absolutely superb, Mike. How you tracked them down in such perfect condition is beyond me - I would be scared to wear them!
Great examples Mike. Adding this one to the mix .
The case on that first one is really fantastic--gorgeous sweeping lugs! Wouldn't kick #2 out of bed either, of course...
The 2852 case really is a remarkably beautiful piece of design, there are many great Constellations made since but that reference just about looks perfect
I think that's a 14381 or similar. I like it as much as the 2852 though, and very similar.
It's a 14393.
Mike, may I see the medallions of those two? Color matching? and the serial number of the 168005. Thanks a lot.
Only just realised it had the date so it couldn't be 14381. Thanks Hoi
So similar I couldn't tell the difference looking at it, I've actually never owned a Constellation personally, buying a 2852 for my father was the closest I've ever gotten.
Don't know why I cannot tell the color of the dial hardware from the two of Mike, maybe my monitor ??
Steve's 168010 is 14k white gold dial hardware ?
Didn't realised you owned a 2852! The only differences I can see is that the 2852 case doesn't have the rivets or facets (don't know terminology..) on the side of the lugs, the 2852 has just sharp slightly more angular lugs, and also not sure if the lack "officially certified" on Mikes makes it the later one.. It's just as beautiful IMO, I'm glad they didn't change it too much into the 60's.
Edit: I'm astonished at how sharp Mikes actually is, looks like it's not been touched!
Its not actually mine it belongs to dad, I'm not entitled to it unless he eats some very bad pork.
Seriously, who is surprised. I am not.
Hardware is steel/white gold. Caseback medallion is gold on the 14393 and steel on the 168.005. Don't have the watches with me at the moment (at a safe place offsite) so couldn't give you the movement number of the 168.005.
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Very rarely do we get watches in such a condition, today.
Definitely you know what you are doing, keeping them at 'a safe place'. The moment you disclose its location, that safe place will become very unsafe. You know some of our forums members' desire, better.
Thanks Mike. That's what I thought.
The serial number on your 168005 should be higher than 21 mil, I believe.
Three beautifull "Connie"
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