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Evitzee
·Fully agree, but there are cases where we have no clue what we don't know... and will need someone to educate us.
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JwRosenthal
·It opened my eyes to the reality that there are many people in situations I simply cannot understand, nor do I need to, I need only to accept them for who they are.
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Widows Son
·No eight year old has any business making life altering decisions . By this I mean any type of surgery or hormone blockers. And yet this is being done in some states. My eleven year old isn't allowed to decide what time to go to bed, what to eat for dinner (he's eat ice cream 24/7 if allowed) to go to school or not, drive a car, enlist in the Army... The list goes on and on.
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Omegafanman
·Thanks for posting. Interesting that the money side / transactions was very accurate.
A bit sad (but accurate) to see the lad lone learning as we are a communal creature at heart and move forward better in groups rather than just being individually programmed.
Off grid power cell / power sources..... nice dream but not an earner for the big boys (also a shame as my new energy contract is 700% up this month.....)
Crazy (and inaccurate) to see so much focus on nutrition, exercise and health / mental well being - Why would computers do that?
Comparing readings before and after exercise.... balancing calories, prompting natural health ...my god they were off there heads in the sixties. The diagnostics system / scanner was more accurate ...but they failed to predict all the interventions and pharmaceuticals we will be diagnosed rather than just leading a balanced healthy life.....
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A bit sad (but accurate) to see the lad lone learning as we are a communal creature at heart and move forward better in groups rather than just being individually programmed.
Off grid power cell / power sources..... nice dream but not an earner for the big boys (also a shame as my new energy contract is 700% up this month.....)
Crazy (and inaccurate) to see so much focus on nutrition, exercise and health / mental well being - Why would computers do that?
Comparing readings before and after exercise.... balancing calories, prompting natural health ...my god they were off there heads in the sixties. The diagnostics system / scanner was more accurate ...but they failed to predict all the interventions and pharmaceuticals we will be diagnosed rather than just leading a balanced healthy life.....
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cvalue13
·No eight year old has any business making life altering decisions . By this I mean any type of surgery or hormone blockers. And yet this is being done in some states.
no 8 year old is making that decision in any state
their parents are
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gostang9
·No eight year old has any business making life altering decisions . By this I mean any type of surgery or hormone blockers.
Her parents adopted her, so her life had already been "altered" for the better, and she was a very happy young lady.
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aggie
·I'm in a similar boat.
I'm 44, and thought I was very progressive, until I pointed out to my daughter (incorrectly... naively...) that I learned to think of "they" and "them" as plural.
She is now 17, uber 'woke', and has been very vocal about just how out-of-touch her mother and I are when it comes to social issues. We've tried explaining that we don't want to be 'mean', and we're happy to learn, but it seems the current wave of change has no patience and lacks a willingness to educate those left behind.
My wife and I recently spent 2 weeks in NOLA (my fave city in the world) with her father. We met several of his neighbours at a casual dinner party he hosted. Amongst the guests was a young lady (maybe 6 or 8 years old?) who was born male but has identified as female and changed her name. She was a charming young girl, and my wife spent several hours with her during the time we were there. She's being raised by 2 women, of whom only 1 is referred to as 'mom' and the other is referred to as 'bubba' - which she explained to my wife means she doesn't identify as male or female and so that term is neutral (neither 'mom' or 'dad'). We were happy to spend time with them, and enjoyed their company. We were fortunate that the young lady shared openly about their preferred pronouns and explained it on some basic level. My main take-away is that humans are wonderful, and if you get to know them (regardless of gender and/or preferred pronouns) you realize how great spending time with anyone can be. My concern in the next few decades will be just how we can transition smoothly from a world where we 'believed' a person's identity could be determined by appearance and easily put into 1 of 2 distinct categories, to one where we learn not to judge or assume and to wait for others to explain themselves to us. I believe it will unfortunately be a very difficult paradigm shift for many to make, and it will not be smooth.
Frankly, what if it was "only "chemicals everywhere, oestrogens in water, pollution ect which would cause all this? Why now, and not before? Ooooh! Ok, I am the stupidest person you ever met...
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cvalue13
·it’s always jarring when we think something is concrete and objectively so, then realize it it’s not. But it’s not always emotional.
for this forum, perhaps the best example is time: we might be instinctively shocked to first learn that (in important ways) there’s no such thing as a “minute;” that time is in fact a relative and flexible concept, and not in a merely theoretical way (for just one example, GPS only works by taking into account time dilation)
if a person first learns about time dilation, it might be jarring, but it’s not emotionally charged. a person learning about time dilation might even react with a sense of wonder about the complexity and diversity of experiences to be had in the world.
but tell them that that certain social constructs might also be fuzzy concepts, and now things are emotional.
Lots to learn about ourselves by reflecting on why that added ingredient of emotion exists.
for this forum, perhaps the best example is time: we might be instinctively shocked to first learn that (in important ways) there’s no such thing as a “minute;” that time is in fact a relative and flexible concept, and not in a merely theoretical way (for just one example, GPS only works by taking into account time dilation)
if a person first learns about time dilation, it might be jarring, but it’s not emotionally charged. a person learning about time dilation might even react with a sense of wonder about the complexity and diversity of experiences to be had in the world.
but tell them that that certain social constructs might also be fuzzy concepts, and now things are emotional.
Lots to learn about ourselves by reflecting on why that added ingredient of emotion exists.
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gostang9
·it’s always jarring when we think something is concrete and objectively so, then realize it it’s not. But it’s not always emotional.
for this forum, perhaps the best example is time: we might be instinctively shocked to first learn that (in important ways) there’s no such thing as a “minute;” that time is in fact a relative and flexible concept, and not in a merely theoretical way (for just one example, GPS only works by taking into account time dilation)
if a person first learns about time dilation, it might be jarring, but it’s not emotionally charged. a person learning about time dilation might even react with a sense of wonder about the complexity and diversity of experiences to be had in the world.
but tell them that that certain social constructs might also be fuzzy concepts, and now things are emotional.
Lots to learn about ourselves by reflecting on why that added ingredient of emotion exists.
I often find myself framing expectations of others based on what is true for myself. Who I am, what I've experienced, what I think and what I feel are quite unique to me and my reality. It would be absurd to force the construct, thoughts and feelings of others to fit into a narrow definition based on how I view the world.
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Widows Son
·Such an excellent post!
I often find myself framing expectations of others based on what is true for myself. Who I am, what I've experienced, what I think and what I feel are quite unique to me and my reality. It would be absurd to force the construct, thoughts and feelings of others to fit into a narrow definition based on how I view the world.
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Dsloan
·I have already experienced this. I am 49, a Gen-ex’er and always considered myself incredibly progressive and open minded (our generation was all about being who you want to be and embracing “fringe” lifestyles). I got into a friendly argument with a 30 year old co-worker over lunch about pro-nouns and gender. I wasn’t being an obtuse ass, but clearly wasn’t up-to-date on how to empathize with people who are trying to express themselves. I realized that I was now out of touch!
It happens to all of us at some point I guess.
I work in a very progressive organization and I've also been very liberal.. but I am definitely nearing the age where I'm having similar moments with young coworkers. They'll have a critical perspective on something I think of as 'normal' and I do find myself having a knee-jerk reaction at times. I definitely have learned that if I slow down and ask some questions, there's usually something there that's real and that I can learn from. And if I stop and hear them out, then they're also more willing to take my expertise and advice as an 'elder millennial' managing them.
For instance, our staff meeting today was open conversation about 'workplace trauma' - mostly people sharing stories about maltreatment in past jobs related to race and gender. Some of it was really raw, intense stuff. This wasn't something that I encountered in workplaces 15+ years ago. But it led to great conversations about what people value in our work culture, and how we can continue improving our work culture to help team members feel valued in each department. The quality of our work and employee retention rate has definitely improved in the last two years since we've been doing more of these types of conversations.
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Dan S
·The cleaning closet is genius.
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JwRosenthal
·The cleaning closet is genius.
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorAnd if I stop and hear them out, then they're also more willing to take my expertise and advice as an 'elder millennial' managing them.
Yesterday’s feedback/help is today’s bullying….Have had to adopt the let them f🤬k up and learn for themselves approach at work……😗
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JwRosenthal
·Yesterday’s feedback/help is today’s bullying….Have had to adopt the let them f🤬k up and learn for themselves approach at work……😗
He said that he needs to have something “actionable” to be able to take any corrective action- basically he has to wait until this guy really fucks up before he can reprimand. I am more proactive that reactive, but I get it.
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ConElPueblo
·That is remarkably similar!
Mine are Thonet 209s, the ones in the film are Thonet 30s. Both are designs from the beginning of the 20th century which have managed to look contemporary for a century.
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