1995 Omega Speedmaster 3592.50 bracelet issues HELP NEEDED

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Hello all,

I have recently purchased a 1995 Omega Speedmaster 3592.50 from a reputable source. When receiving the watch I immediately fell in love with the dial and was impressed with the overall condition of the case and the 1479 bracelet.

The watch also came with its original box and papers, as well as the hang tag - the serial number on the certificate matches the number engraved on the lug. Based on the certificate, this watch was originally sold in 1995. I also looked up the serial number using an online tool and it validated that the watch was produced in 1995.

After wearing it for a week or two I noticed that one of the end links was slightly loose due to the spring bar not being fully fastened in the lug hole. I brought it in to an Omega AD to have the spring bar replaced. After trying to replace it for quite some time the AD explained that the spring bar did not properly line up with the lug hole. He assumed that this was perhaps not the appropriate bracelet reference for my watch.

Based on my own research, the 1479 bracelet was used for this speedmaster reference until 1996, when they switched to the 1499 bracelet.

I decided to get a second opinion and brought the watch to an Omega certified horologist. He is specialized in servicing vintage Speedmasters and sees these types of references quite often. He also experienced a similar issue with the spring bar. He explained that the height of the end link is not allowing the spring bar to properly line up with the lug hole. Furthermore, the end link does not sit flat and appears to be slightly raised, which might be contributing to the problem.

He managed to fasten a thinner spring bar temporarily. However, he warned me that this should only be a temporary solution, as a thinner spring bar would have a greater risk of releasing.

Could anyone shed some light as to whether this is the correct bracelet for the year and reference?

If this is in fact the correct bracelet, is it possible that this bracelet is an aftermarket part? I have includled pictures of the bracelet, end links and engravings on the clasp.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 
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Hello all,

I have recently purchased a 1995 Omega Speedmaster 3592.50 from a reputable source. When receiving the watch I immediately fell in love with the dial and was impressed with the overall condition of the case and the 1479 bracelet.

The watch also came with its original box and papers, as well as the hang tag - the serial number on the certificate matches the number engraved on the lug. Based on the certificate, this watch was originally sold in 1995. I also looked up the serial number using an online tool and it validated that the watch was produced in 1995.

After wearing it for a week or two I noticed that one of the end links was slightly loose due to the spring bar not being fully fastened in the lug hole. I brought it in to an Omega AD to have the spring bar replaced. After trying to replace it for quite some time the AD explained that the spring bar did not properly line up with the lug hole. He assumed that this was perhaps not the appropriate bracelet reference for my watch.

Based on my own research, the 1479 bracelet was used for this speedmaster reference until 1996, when they switched to the 1499 bracelet.

I decided to get a second opinion and brought the watch to an Omega certified horologist. He is specialized in servicing vintage Speedmasters and sees these types of references quite often. He also experienced a similar issue with the spring bar. He explained that the height of the end link is not allowing the spring bar to properly line up with the lug hole. Furthermore, the end link does not sit flat and appears to be slightly raised, which might be contributing to the problem.

He managed to fasten a thinner spring bar temporarily. However, he warned me that this should only be a temporary solution, as a thinner spring bar would have a greater risk of releasing.

Could anyone shed some light as to whether this is the correct bracelet for the year and reference?

If this is in fact the correct bracelet, is it possible that this bracelet is an aftermarket part? I have includled pictures of the bracelet, end links and engravings on the clasp.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.






I can confirm that is the correct bracelet for that model and it’s also looks like you have the correct 812 end links. I have the same model and mine fits perfectly. Sorry I couldn’t have been more help.

Edit: corrected photo for better viewing
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There seem to have been some threads about issues with that bracelet/ those endlinks, such as this one: https://omegaforums.net/threads/speedy-3592-50-and-the-1479-812-inconsistent-end-pieces.89648/

Thank you for your response! I was completely unaware that there are two types of end links for this bracelet due to different manufacturers. I would imagine that even if I try to locate the correct end links it wont be simple to find the correct fit. Any ideas on where to start?
 
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I would imagine that even if I try to locate the correct end links it wont be simple to find the correct fit. Any ideas on where to start?
I am sorry, but I do not. Maybe @Archer or someone else with a parts account can look in Omega's parts database and see what they indicate, and if the correct ones are currently available.
 
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The end links just need to be fitted. I'm surprised that the watchmaker who does vintage Speedmasters doesn't understand this. The tabs can be thinned to make the end links fit the case easily...
 
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The end links just need to be fitted. I'm surprised that the watchmaker who does vintage Speedmasters doesn't understand this. The tabs can be thinned to make the end links fit the case easily...
Hi Archer thanks for your response. Please excuse my lack of knowledge on the subject but how would this work exactly. Does the end link need to be shaved down? Also, if this is in fact the correct bracelet and end links for the watch why would it not fit? Is this a quality control issue?
 
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Hi Archer thanks for your response. Please excuse my lack of knowledge on the subject but how would this work exactly. Does the end link need to be shaved down? Also, if this is in fact the correct bracelet and end links for the watch why would it not fit? Is this a quality control issue?

The "why" I can't answer. All I know is it's not uncommon for the tabs on the sides of the end links to need filing down, in order to make the holes in the end links line up with the holes in the case.
 
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The "why" I can't answer. All I know is it's not uncommon for the tabs on the sides of the end links to need filing down, in order to make the holes in the end links line up with the holes in the case.
Archer thank you for the explanation, I did not know that this was a common issue with the 812 end links. Is this issue also common with more modern speedmaster bracelets? Would I need to seek the expertise of a horologist that offers case polishing to have this done?

For the time being a slightly thinner omega spring bar has been inserted and is holding in place. Do you forsee any issues with this?

Again thanks for the guidance.
 
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Any watchmaker who knows how to use a file should be able to do this - you file on the surface at the red arrow:

 
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I had the same issue fitting a pair of 808 end links to a vintage speedmaster case.

You simply need a hand file (and some finer polish if you want to give it a nice finish) to remove some metal from the top face of the tab on the side of the end link (the bit that sits under the lugs) until the end links is able to rise sufficiently to allow the springbars to align with the hole.

It took me about 5 mins when I did it.

Edit: Al beat me to it. The pic posted above is the same part of the end link I’m referring to.
 
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Any watchmaker who knows how to use a file should be able to do this - you file on the surface at the red arrow:

Thank you for the photo Archer! This is much more clear now that I can see it.
 
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I had the same issue fitting a pair of 808 end links to a vintage speedmaster case.

You simply need a hand file (and some finer polish if you want to give it a nice finish) to remove some metal from the top face of the tab on the side of the end link (the bit that sits under the lugs) until the end links is able to rise sufficiently to allow the springbars to align with the hole.

It took me about 5 mins when I did it.

Edit: Al beat me to it. The pic posted above is the same part of the end link I’m referring to.

Thank you Davidt. Just wondering if this needed to be done because you were trying to fit a different bracelet ref on your speedy case or if it was rather a fitting issue?
 
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Thank you Davidt. Just wondering if this needed to be done because you were trying to fit a different bracelet ref on your speedy case or if it was rather a fitting issue?

Yes I was fitting a bracelet to a watch for which is wasn’t originally designed.

Im not sure the reason makes a difference though does it? If the bracelet doesn’t fit as the spring bar doesn’t line up with the lug holes, this is the solution.
 
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Yes I was fitting a bracelet to a watch for which is wasn’t originally designed.

Im not sure the reason makes a difference though does it? If the bracelet doesn’t fit as the spring bar doesn’t line up with the lug holes, this is the solution.
Yes, I agree the solution is the same regardless.
I was just curious to see why this issue happens.

As stated in my original post, one of my main concerns was that my bracelet was not the one originally intended for my watch case. However, based on the feedback I have received, it appears to be the correct bracelet. I can only assume that this is a quality control issue or perhaps the end link was replaced somewhere down the road.