Hello- Just bought this from my watch maker. It was his personal watch from when he bought out contents of Large Omega servicer years ago. Barely worn by him. I think he gave me a very nice price. Any info or comments would be appreciated. He had it fully serviced 5 years ago and has barely worn since. The band is 1171/1, DN 90 bezel I believe. He has stated it is all original. Looks to be in great condition. Running great. Any idea on rough value? I'm hoping it's not too nice to wear.

 

Looks great overall and I won't speak much because I'm not an expert, but I can tell you that the bracelet is new because the omega logo isn't a trapezoid, and I don't know what the spear hand chrono hand is doing there.

Have you checked out speedmaster101.com? Do some reading on the site

 

If it’s a 71 it’s a service dial. That’s a 77 and later dial. That’s a domed drop S dial. 71 would be a stepped dial.

Need to see the serial to figure out exactly what it is.

If it’s a 71 value took a large hit. Nice DNN bezel though. Modern bracelet 1171/1 not a period bracelet. Chrono hand is wrong for a 145.022 it’s earlier.

 

He told me it was a 1969, but I thought case back made it a 1971. Thanks for looking.

 

It's not a step dial. And how can you distinguish the year by looking at the outside of the case-back? Makes no sense.

You should show the inside of the case-back photo and a photo of the movement. Maybe a put-together watch from a watchmaker's parts bin.

 

Thanks again.

 

Thanks for looking.

 

@rexquando65

Service dials for 861 movements are just the current production dial at time of service. Hence there are no service dials for 861 regular production speedmasters post 1969.

Speedmaster101 talks about service dials for 321 movements that required slightly different dial feet and are not interchangeable.

The 861 movement started with the 145.022 in 1969. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Your dial is clearly a domed dial, and no step dials exist with the "Speedmaster" font on yours with what is called a "Drop S, drop R" The step is just outside the minute markers, on yours you can see a slight dome there.

While you have a nice looking piece, the older perfectly lumed spear type chrono hand from a 145.012 (1969 at latest) or earlier is a flag. The dial on yours ran from September of 77 through the mid 80's.

The only way to really figure out what is going on with this piece is to check the movement and serial number to see what exactly it is. The caseback inscription would also be needed to look at for correctness. But the caseback is a 145.022-71 at its earliest.

 

I will get it opened up. Thank you.

 

I updated my post please re-read for more info.

 

Agree with @Foo2rama

It's not a stepped dial. You need the ref (inside case back) and serial no (on movement).

You've either got a nice mid-late 70's Speedmaster with incorrect hands or a put together.

Original owners often seem to think they bought a watch about a decade before they actually did. Alternatively, he may mean it's a -69 because apart from some minor details that collectors obsess over, the model introduced in 69 stayed pretty the same for some years.

 

Hi. Your watch is most likely a -81 at the oldest, it could also be around a 84 model (if the watch is fully original) due to the case back having the short Q and lower middle W letter. The bracelet is as well a 1171/1 when a early 80ies have a 1171 bracelet. Please feel free to compare to my extract confirmed -82 Speedy that came with an 1171 bracelet.

 

One thing that’s “off” for a fully original 80ies is the drop chrono hand.

 

Okay. I think my watch guy was hopefully just off by a decade and the chrono hand is incorrect. The serial number is 399xxx and the case number is 145022.
I'm hoping this is an original 1979. Please advise.

 

Thank you for all your help. I uploaded photo's on movement and case. Hopefully it all matches as 1979,

 

Yep, looks ok for a very late 70s -into the early 80s speedmaster 145022 ref

Mine says hello - i also have the same bracelet as you - 1171/1, with 32 inside a circle, and 633 end links

Lume on these is light/lime green in colour

 

Plausibly all ok from late 1970s except for the sweep hand.