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  1. Groto Jul 14, 2012

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    Bought this on eBay from a reputable seller. These are the images on the page. I know there isn't a view of the movement, but what are your thoughts? Does this look authentic? I have not received it yet. Anybody have an idea of the model number? I'd like to look it up on the omega watch finder site. Thanks

    The images didn't upload at full resolution, but hopefully it's clear enough.


    Could I take this watch to a Omega dealer and have them determine if it's authentic? Do they charge for it?

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/imagepuv.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/imageyoj.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/imagelrvb.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/imageeyi.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/imageaji.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/imageobk.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/imageeyi.jpg/

    Thanks!
     
  2. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 14, 2012

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    Your Omega dealer likely doesn't even know how to open it much less whether its real or not, vintage pieces are rather outside of their scope in general.
     
  3. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 14, 2012

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    Looks real, but I doubt it came that way in purple, watch has been refinished.
     
  4. ulackfocus Jul 14, 2012

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    Yep, refinished dial. Seems to be authentic otherwise.
     
  5. Groto Jul 14, 2012

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    What goes into refinishing a dial? Is it still a dial made by Omega? Is it still considered "authentic" where Omega would service it? Any idea what model it is?
     
  6. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 14, 2012

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    The physical dial itself is original but its been completely repainted by someone other than Omega
     
  7. Groto Jul 14, 2012

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    Will Omega service this watch? Any idea in what model it is?
     
  8. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 14, 2012

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    Omega would likely still service it , but they would charge a lot to do it. Perhaps 900-1000 USD. You can get it serviced much cheaper from a good independent watchmaker. The exact model number can be determined by looking at the inside of the back, you may have to go a watchmaker to get this checked, don't go to some jeweler , unless you know and trust the staff's competence.
     
  9. Groto Jul 14, 2012

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    Any idea what a watchmaker would charge to open it and look at the model number?
     
  10. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jul 14, 2012

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    This is a Seamaster COSMIC, not to be confused with the later COSMIC 2000 series.

    The movement comes out through the front of the case after removing the crystal and crown which has a split stem.

    Shouldn't cost more than about $10, its very simple with the correct tools.
     
  11. Groto Jul 14, 2012

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    Ooh it is cosmic. looks just like the pictures on Google. How do you tell that the dial was redone? What are the indicators other then how good of shape it's in? Thanks for all of the help
     
  12. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jul 15, 2012

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    For starters is should say Seamaster with COSMIC below. Secondly the color is not one offered by Omega on this watch.
     
  13. Groto Jul 16, 2012

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    If the physical dial is original I guess they removed the word Cosmic for some reason. It sure looks well done though.
     
  14. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jul 16, 2012

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    Whoever refinished the dial didn't have the correct printing plate with the COSMIC script and the watches owner didn't care enough to make it right, not a good sign for the rest of the watch.
     
  15. Groto Jul 16, 2012

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    I just received the watch. It looks very nice but it is about 5 seconds slow a minute. Can this be adjusted? How off should a watch be for being early 1970s? I am going to take the watch in tomorrow and see if they adjust it and show me the movement and tell me the model number/serial number inside. Thoughts?
     
  16. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 16, 2012

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    5 seconds per minute is very off, it most likely needs a full overhaul
     
  17. Groto Jul 17, 2012

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    So I screwed up since I have never owned a vintage watch. I timed 60 seconds right after getting the watch before it was charged. I wound it a lot yesterday and have not worn it yet because the band has not been adjusted. 30 hours later it is still ticking and about 5 mins off in over a day. When I time 60 seconds it seems pretty perfect. How far off should a watch like this be? Is 5 mins after a day about right? Can I make it more accurate?
     
  18. ulackfocus Jul 18, 2012

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    Like Ashley / dsio said - it probably needs to be serviced.
     
  19. Groto Jul 18, 2012

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    After giving it some power and then timing it again I believe it is very accurate now. The seller says it is more accurate after winding it as opposed to just putting it on when it was compltely dead.

    I will give it 24 hours and see how far off it is, but I think it will be pretty much perfect.

    I contacted the seller today and got some more information.

    "Hi very good questions. The watch has been professionally serviced and the movement I was told is perfect there is a special tool required to access it and this tool is available only to qualified omega specialists.You can rest assured that everything was done properly. As for the word cosmic indeed you are right later models did feature the name cosmic on the dial you can see one of my other auctions has that particular later model. The one you have is earlier and thus more rare . I hope you will enjoy it and in the future if anything catches your eye I would be more than happy to assist you Also please remember to wind it 10 times or so and then wear each time when it runs completely out of power."

    So it sounds like this is the original dial and I also did not know what I was doing because I haven't owned a vintage watch. Thoughts on these comments?
     
  20. Trev The Architect Staff Member Jul 18, 2012

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    We seem to keep going in circles here. You previously stated that it had a full-winding and ran quite slowly after 30hrs.

    Most vintage sellers don't send a movement for a full servicing before selling. Your seller doesn't specify the movement as being serviced, just that it "is perfect".