Hi everyone! I am new on the forum. I have a question for all of you. I have recently received from a relative a vintage seamaster chronograph (picture attached) and I cannot find any similar dial on internet. Reference is: 145.016 I am 100% sure this is an original watch as I personally know the person who bought in 1968 or 1969. As you can see in the picture the dial has some particulars that are different from the models I can usually find online, in particular and among others: - Minutes chrono counter: long marks at 3, 6, 9 seconds - Hours chrono counter: figures written in the inner part - No "tachymetre" and arrow symbols - "T SWISS T" instead of "T SWISS MADE T" - etc... Does anyone have any information about this dial ?? Many thanks in advance Alessandro
Looks like a redial - wrong dial style for that model. Plus markings too thick like in the seconds subdial.
Thanks for your feedback MSNWatch. I am convinced that my grandfather bought this watch new in 1969 so it would be strange to have a redial. I will double-check again with my father and keep you posted.
Dials were often refinished without owner knowledge or request when watches were sent for a routine service. No one really cared back in the day, long before these became collectable.
That could be an explanation. I know this watch has been serviced several times during his history, since there are many annotations inside the case back. I am trying to find old family pictures to identify the original appearance! Do you think it could be worth to find an original dial and replace it ? Any idea of the right price for this kind of spare parts ? Many thanks
The dial, which also has been refinished, belongs to an early 50ies chrono. The hands may be correct to the watch, and tells us that the original dial on this watch had silver markers. Probably exchanged due to damage by moisture
The dead giveaway for this dial being a redial is the seconds subdial - the alpha numerals should be either 10-20-30-40-50-60 or 20-40-60 but NOT 15-30-45-60 like in this one.
Here is a watch I have. Cal 861 Movement Number 27 Mil case 145.016-68 Both equate to 1968. Is this an original build from the numbers and picture?