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1965 OMEGA Seamaster 101.010-65 Cal. 321

  1. brack

    brack Jul 28, 2014

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    Hi,
    Am lusting after this watch, I really like the small dimensions of a very technical watch.
    Price is a bit high around £1700!
    Thoughts please.
    Ian $_57.JPG $_57-1.JPG
     
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  2. Gaz6263

    Gaz6263 Jul 28, 2014

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    I'd say that's not an overly expensive UK price for a good clean example of this watch.
     
  3. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 28, 2014

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    Expensive because dial looks refinished to me.
     
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  4. Gaz6263

    Gaz6263 Jul 28, 2014

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    Either that or in the most incredible original condition.
     
  5. Spacefruit

    Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jul 28, 2014

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    If you look carefully, these non-speedmaster cal 321's are valued by the open market at $1500-2200.
    Several sellers offer watches with asking prices are that are much higher and rarely achieved.

    these watches have the problem that they have low desirability and therefore have not had the money spent on servicing that 321's need. After all at current prices a service will be 30% of the value! compared to a speedmaster where it can be 15% or less of the value.

    so as a consequence some of the irreplaceable parts might have worn, leading to even more expense, on what is currently a sub $2000 watch.

    in this example, I believe the dial is refinished because of the condition. At $1800 it wouldn't matter, but this is not $1800.
     
  6. Dablitzer

    Dablitzer Jul 28, 2014

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    The same price could by my two register chrono cal 320 in solid 18k gold with original albeit some small aged dial.
     
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  7. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 28, 2014

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    Sad but largely true - I think the cal. 321 non-speedmaster omegas are hugely undervalued particularly the seamasters. There are exceptions though - the solid 18k rose gold ones in nice shape will fetch a good price as will the jumbo versions and of course those in mint condition. These watches are actually less plentiful than the cal. 321 speedmasters.
     
  8. brack

    brack Jul 28, 2014

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    I am told the dial is original. I must say even if I could afford a speedmaster 321, I would prefer the smaller 35mm Seamaster.
    You lot are a bit depressing, I think one should go for what appeals and not be too affected by current values!
    I will keep you posted if I buy this one.
     
  9. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jul 28, 2014

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    Take what has been said about the dial with a grain of salt - as I had mentioned, this one looks like a redial. This cal. 320 in an 18k rose gold case advertised in this forum is IMO a much better buy:

    http://omegaforums.net/threads/320-...in-dial-pristine-condition.14972/#post-167908
     
  10. Spacefruit

    Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jul 28, 2014

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    I am not sure what is depressing. The fact the market values these 321 seamasters so low, ought to be uplifting.

    I think there is general agreement that these are great little watches, just not (yet) valued like the speedmaster.

    there is no critism from this contributer on the choice of watch, far from it.
     
  11. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 28, 2014

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    Its an very nice buy at that money (the rose gold 320 not the OP's 321), one member actually PMed me what was wrong with it as he didn't think you could get a rose gold 32x powered chronograph with an original dial at that money.
     
  12. brack

    brack Jul 29, 2014

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    I agree with you, that gold 320 is really beautiful.
    I just wanted a Stainless Steel to go with my other Golds. 1_010.jpg $_57.JPG
     
  13. Modest_Proposal

    Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Jul 29, 2014

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    Still waiting for a buyer to come along! :whistling: