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  1. c34jsm Sep 12, 2015

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    The price is too good to be true on this one, I don't recognize the dial however so I am skeptical to buy. I've wanted a vintage Omega for years and this one is finally in my budget. But I can't identify the year by the peculiar shape of the markings and the backing w/o crossheirs or date.

    Is anyone able to identify whether this is an authentic Seamaster?
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  2. c34jsm Sep 12, 2015

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    I will update this with any info I can as soon as the seller sends updated pictures. Looking for serial number, etc.
     
  3. lillatroll Sep 12, 2015

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    Hello,

    If you can please post clearer pictures, it is impossible to tell from these pictures. Try to get as much detail as possible and as clear as possible. It would also help if you have the reference number on the inside of the case.
     
  4. c34jsm Sep 12, 2015

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    Thanks for responding. I've requested clearer pictures and S/N, I realized after I made the post that this wouldn't get far with just the seller's first two photographs. Wanted to gauge initial perception since it's not an auction but a local post from a private seller on a listing website. I don't expect it will last long if it is authentic, but my initial impression is that the hour markers don't match up with that era.
     
  5. Joe K. Curious about this text thingy below his avatar Sep 12, 2015

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    Pictures are low resolution, so can't say much. However, this style of dial (I call these linen pattern) was used by Omega.
     
  6. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Sep 12, 2015

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    Looks like a 1950s/60s Seamaster. Dial wouldn't be unusual for the 50s/60s as there were many variants. I think it might be there might be a Cal. 470/471 inside. Borrowed picture of a similar one but different dial texture.

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  7. c34jsm Sep 12, 2015

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    Nice find. I didn't consider the 50s as seller said he thought 60s.
    How should I approach this sale? It's possible the seller doesn't know what they have. I don't own a case knife to open the back annd I'm guessing the seller doesn't know anything about watches as it was likely gifted to them
     
  8. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Sep 12, 2015

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    The one above is 1961. How much is the seller asking? I would get better pictures of the dial first before making a decision.
     
  9. c34jsm Sep 12, 2015

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    The seller is asking 285 US dollars. It's a local sale so I will be able to look at it as well, not doing it over the internet.
     
  10. omegastar Sep 12, 2015

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    It is a first generation Seamaster Deville, probably 1961 before Deville was added to the dials on USA agent's demand. Those first dials are the nicest. rolex 93160 034.JPG rolex 93160 033.JPG
     
  11. c34jsm Sep 12, 2015

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    Attached are higher res photos

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  12. omegastar Sep 12, 2015

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    Haste makes waste, my mistake.
     
  13. DON Sep 12, 2015

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    Dial looks refinished based on case and hands condition. Nobody bothers to fake these. Not worth time or money and it has the right aging to the case and back.

    Late 50's early 60's. Gold capped case, so should polish up OK. Price I'm not sure of as I don't know whats inside.

    When I bought watches. Paid more for bumper or 55X series movements. Paid less for 500 to 505 series movements as I didn't like them

    Always best to check the movement to see condition and avoid expensive repairs after the purchase. Do you know the seller? See if they will let you take it to a watchmaker to open it and check movement

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  14. c34jsm Sep 12, 2015

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    Thanks Don. I'm skeptical as the 6 position says SWISS and not SWISS MADE. I don't know the seller, it's a local listing encounter.

    *Edit

    Also, it may be the refraction of the crystal or the angle but it looks like the dial markings and bezel markings aren't completely lining up.
     
  15. ulackfocus Sep 12, 2015

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    The linen dial looks original to me. It was probably imported to the US to be installed in an American made case, which is typical of gold, gold capped, and gold filled watches (hence only SWISS on the bottom).

    It's a VERY late 1950's or early to mid 60's piece, probably 1959 to 1966. No one can be absolutely sure those alpha style hands are original but they were used by Omega on several references back then. Owned a few myself as a matter of fact. Plus, the corrosion on the hands is in line with the corrosion on the indices. Hands, especially the second hand, show age before anything else given that there was no water inside the watch. The most questionable thing is the crown as I think those clover crowns went out about the time that case came into production.
     
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  16. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Sep 12, 2015

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    Looks like the markers are just reflecting on the tension ring.