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  1. Blued

    Blued Feb 12, 2019

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    Hi all.

    I recently took ownership of this supposed 1960s Seamaster.

    I was told that it's just been serviced and the crowns been replaced.

    The serial dates correct and so to the modal (165.002) as far as I understand.

    The case has very little wear. Particularily around the lugs where I would have thought the Spidel strap would have rubbed over the years? Could this be a new case? Good condition but just had a polish?

    The dial is an odd one too. Have the hour markings been soldered on? There is some strange discoloration around the hour markings which then has, what I'd describe as lightning looking, discoloration patterns going towards the centre. Is that caused by the heat of the soldering?

    Any advice is greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. Blued

    Blued Feb 13, 2019

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    If you need more pics just ask. Cheers.
     
  3. ConElPueblo

    ConElPueblo Feb 13, 2019

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    Doesn't look to bad from what I can tell.

    Pictures where the features you'd like comments on are in focus would help a lot :D
     
  4. Blued

    Blued Feb 13, 2019

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    Haha. My phone doesn't like macro shots evidently. I suppose it's the lugs themselves which make me wonder if it's a replacement case. The edges look hard and I would have thought if it's from 1960 they'd be a bit rounded with wear?
     
  5. 002

    002 Feb 14, 2019

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    I have that same watch, from 1965. Is yours gold? Is the dial sunburst or vertical lines?

    "Solder marks", If you're referring to the marks at the outer edge of the indices, that is most likely the old lume plots. Hard to say 100% from the distortion of the pictures and crystal, but I bet that's it.
     
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  6. wsfarrell

    wsfarrell Feb 14, 2019

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    It's doubtful that the watch was recased, perhaps just not worn much. And 002 is correct that the dots at the ends of the markers are lume.
     
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  7. Blued

    Blued Feb 14, 2019

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    Thanks so much. I never even thought that they could be lume plots but that makes complete sense. The lume on the hands has worn to look like the lume plots at the outer edge of the indices which makes sense.

    The dials a bit worn but its sunburst and not lines. My understanding is that its gold filled.

    What band do you have on yours? I'd love to see it.
     
  8. Blued

    Blued Feb 14, 2019

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    Thanks very much. That's a big relief regarding the lume plots.
     
  9. 002

    002 Feb 15, 2019

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    These are the only pics I have at work. This is from when I first got it. It has been serviced by Omega since then.
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    Here with its brothers, wearing a beads of rice bracelet. Still looking for the correct end links.
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    I haven't found too much information or interest in this reference. Please share anything you learn, end link #'s, original advertising/pictures, etc... I'm especially interested in which crown, crystal or bracelets came with these.
     
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  10. 002

    002 Feb 15, 2019

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    It came to me with a low profile, flatter crystal. Not sure which crystal is historically correct, but prefer it to the taller rounder one that Omega replaced it with.
     
  11. Blued

    Blued Feb 15, 2019

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    I agree. Infos been difficult to find.

    I believe mine to be 165.0002
    https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-omega-seamaster-omega-jd-165-0002

    Havnt found a catalogue or advert with a pic yet but it is mentioned in a German 1964 catalogue with its 001 brother... http://www.old-omegas.com/pics/catde64/p26.jpg

    It also looks like this 001 special in a German catalogue from 1963...
    http://www.old-omegas.com/pics/catde63-2/p5.jpg

    This suggests to me that 002 begun to replace the 001 in around 62-64. The major change being the hands and the pointed hour markers. This is consistent with text engraved on the back of my watch that it was gifted to its owner in 1964...

    Heres the crystal on mine if it helps (although I understand they are actually plastic). 20190216_163841.jpg 20190216_163830.jpg 20190216_163807.jpg
     
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